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My birth Certificate from 1963, has the delivering doctors signature, along with the head nurse and 2 other witnesses.
How nice for you.
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Originally Posted by BentBow
The race boxes to choose from, it does not say African next to any of the boxes to check off.
I have never seen a birth certificate with "race boxes," and as my family's historian I have hundreds of such certificates in my possession. I suspect that you are making this up.
That said, Hawaii never had check boxes, and are on record that they allow parents to self identify what race they want recorded on the form.
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Originally Posted by BentBow
My daughters birth was announced in many newspapers across the nation, by family members, as was mine in 1963.
The two Hawaiian papers in 1961 did not allow that. They published information issued to them by the Department of Health.
Reasons the birthers do not believe the president is a citizen:
1. He is black
2. He has a funny sounding name
3. He is black
4. He lived with his mother in another country for awhile when he was a child
5. He is polite to people from other countries and cultures
6. He is black
Exactly. My brother-in-law (an avowed racist) has stated that he cared not if a birth certificate is produced, for black people should not be eligible to be President. He says they were not eligible when this country was founded, and they should not be now (it was not the 'original intent' of the framers of the Constitution). He also pointed out that the three Civil War amendments to the Constitution did not say that black people could be president, just that they were no longer slaves and that they could vote.
Of course, when you have not worked for 20 years, rely on disability benefits as your income, and have no intention of ever working again, I guess you have ample time to sit at a computer and read whacko theories.
Hawaii governor claims record of Obama's birth 'exists in archives' but can't produce the vital document
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But it became apparent that what had been discovered was an unspecified listing or notation of Obama's birth that someone had made in the state archives and not a birth certificate.
And in the same interview Abercrombie suggested that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.
No document will "truly end the question." Birthers have already preemptively announced that a release of the "long form" will not satisfy them.
I'm pretty sure that even if there was a time/date stamped video uncovered of Obama coming out of his mom's va-jay-jay, while waving an American flag, covered in apple pie, singing a Star Spangled Banner/Pledge of Allegiance remix with President Kennedy and the entire 1961 Supreme Court in attendance... it. wouldn't. matter.
HistorianDude - you are cracking me up with your awesomely-sane efforts to nail jello to a wall (and I'm repping you as much as possible), but I'm afraid it's like trying to do a calculus problem with a drunk person. Nothing you say is going to make sense to them, and in the end, somebody gonna pee themselves and wind up passed out on the flo'.
You are totally reminding me of Anderson Cooper, who had an equally-frustrating conversation with Leo Berman (Berman - way to represent the Lone Star State Yo) about this very topic recently. And, much like your tone on this thread, Coop had the look on his face of someone trying to be patient with a very very very stupid child.
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