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Old 01-27-2011, 08:33 AM
 
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But you've never been a candidate for the POTUS with a questionable eligibility status!
WHY is his eligibility questioned?

He provided a birth certificate, posted it on-line. The state of Hawaii confirmed its validity.

Someone who never handled it, never saw it in person, who doesn't even have the credentials to be considered an expert, thought it might be fake.
To serve a political agenda?

There is NO evidence of any kind whatsoever to support questioning his eligibility. NOTHING. Which is why the birthers have been spinning their wheels and trying to get records released. Because they don't have one single piece of evidence to contradict the posted birth certificate.

And that's why the birthers seem so irrational. Without any evidence, they just keep positing weird theories of conspiracies and cover-ups. Without any evidence, they are suspending rational judgment. And only because it suits their political agenda.

What if I suggested that Sarah Palin was born in Canada. Her mother had an affair with a Canadian hockey player. She's not really a citizen. Her birth certificate is a fake. Her mother really, really wanted Sarah to be considered an American citizen. Why? I don't know. But that's why her mother was so upset when Sarah married Todd. All that work to cover up the real details of her birth, and Sarah goes and marries a separatist, someone who doesn't want to be an American citizen. And Sarah spent her life being groomed to become the first female President of the United States. The basketball years, to show that she's a tough competitor, she'll take out anyone who gets in her way. The mayor years, to showcase her political savvy. Oh, the town had a city manager, too. Well, yeah, because Sarah can delegate. The governorship was supposed to hone those executive leadership skills. Of course, it was cut short, because her talent and ability was recognized early, and thrust her into the spotlight. But what proof do we have that she's an American at all?
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Old 01-27-2011, 08:39 AM
 
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According to the law at that time, his mother had not met the age/residency requirement to pass on her citizenship to a child born overseas.
have you got a link to the age requirement? we know that stanley ann was 18 at the time of obama's birth, what was the age requirement for overseas births?
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Old 01-27-2011, 08:52 AM
 
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If Obozo could provide his long-form birth certificate that shows he is a "natural born citizen" it would reduce the number of nay-sayers from a multiple double-digit percentage down to single-digits.
but even if that were so ( i don't believe it would be ) that would still not be absolute proof for all voters. something you claimed earlier was required.
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Old 01-27-2011, 10:07 AM
 
Location: High Cotton
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Neither has Obama.
Oh yes he was! There were millions that questioned his eligibility long before the election.
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Old 01-27-2011, 10:11 AM
 
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Oh yes he was! There were millions that questioned his eligibility long before the election.
And again WHY was his eligibility questioned?

WHY?
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Old 01-27-2011, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Oh yes he was! There were millions that questioned his eligibility long before the election.
Nonsense.

WND (for example) has carried a petition on their web site for more than two and half years and as of today it has a mere 515,199 signatures... including all the Birthers who have signed it scores of times and the anti-Birthers who have signed it with names like "Bozo D. Clown" and "Phinneas T. Nutburger."

"Major" Birthers have held rallies with months of preparation, and none has attracted an audience larger than 100 people. Orly Taitz's protest of O'Reilly attracted 15 people. Phil Berg's "March for the Birth Certificate" in DC attracted exactly 57. Dr. Kate's "Usurpathon" got a grand total of... wait for it... three.

And even this merely shows that some tiny fraction of Americans question his eligibility, not that his eligibility was questionable. It is not and never has been.
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Old 01-27-2011, 10:20 AM
 
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That's not the original long-form...

Why is it that the Hawaii DOH has long-forms for other babies that were born within days of Obozo in 1961, but can't find Obozo's long-form? Why is it that no hospitals have any record of Obozo's birth, but have records of other babies born within days of Obozo in 1961? Does this make any logical sense to you? The so-called "birthers" just want to get to the bottom of this mystery. Obozo could (and should) be willing to solve the mystery by providing his long-form birth certificate. It would be very easy for him to do it...unless the long-form doesn't exist! Then, it's logical that Obozo would refuse and do whatever is necessary to hide the facts.

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Old 01-27-2011, 10:27 AM
 
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Oh yes he was! There were millions that questioned his eligibility long before the election.
then those millions should have taken up the issue with their elected representatives in congress. the people they picked, and the constitution prescribed, to confirm a president.

you picked, they did, he is. that is the US constitution.
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Old 01-27-2011, 10:36 AM
 
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That's not the original long-form...

Why is it that the Hawaii DOH has long-forms for other babies that were born within days of Obozo in 1961, but can't find Obozo's long-form?
because what you are showing is a form released in 1961 ( or atleast before 2001. altho i've seen different hawaiian formats between those dates ). if susan nordyke requested a copy of her birth certificate in 2007 the format would be exactly the same as obama's. all states change formats regularly. it's a simple way to curb fraud.
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Old 01-27-2011, 10:36 AM
 
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have you got a link to the age requirement? we know that stanley ann was 18 at the time of obama's birth, what was the age requirement for overseas births?
Sure... here is the relevant wording from the 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act, Section 301 (a) (7). I have highlighted the key qualification:

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The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

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(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years:
That final qualification required Stanley Ann to have been nineteen (14 + 5) to pass on her citizenship to Obama if he had been born overseas.

This is no longer the law... but is what was in effect when the president was born.
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