America, stop the madness After 8-year disaster, now you’re angry? (Representatives, Congress)

[dcsldcd]

Originally Posted by Donna-501

Did I miss the protests with the tea bags on their heads at that time? I had cable then.

The Ron Paul protesters used tea bags to symbolize the Boston Tea Party. It was the media that dubbed them the Tea Party and it stuck.

[texdav]

Basically the mid term elctions have conseqauence as Obama once said.

[Ecovlke]

Originally Posted by Blue Grass Fever

Here is a letter from a reader; thought i'd share with you. Could this be the inception of the TEA PARTY movement? (sic) -- From the readers | UAW

Great headline. Great link. Kudos!

[Blue Grass Fever]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

There is nothing more moving than a spam chain e-mail.
I almost cried as I read it.

No chain/spam e-mail! My monthly issue of Solidarity.

[Blue Grass Fever]

Originally Posted by dcsldcd

Uh the Tea Party started during Bush's term.


When will the left ever become more informed?

You may want to update wikipedia. -- here -- Tea Party movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Blue Grass Fever]

Originally Posted by Backspace

Written by a member of the UAW?

....and copied and pasted by another UAW member.....

[Blue Grass Fever]

Originally Posted by Mac_Muz

That letter is typical union drivel. Say good bye to Obama you have just 2 years to get it done.

Low on substance and high on rhetoric.....

[Blue Grass Fever]

Originally Posted by KoobleKar

I guess 52 Months of unemployment under 4.7% and steady growth of the GDP was somehting he feels was a bad thing.

From the UAW......nuff said.

Oh yeah, the pseudo-economy i forgot about that was being hollowed out like a house infested with termites. (Is there another saying for "selective-amnesia"?)

UAW member here --- we can debate on the finer points of labor as it pertains to the economy and its' history in its' entirety. It's up to you.....

[Loveshiscountry]

Originally Posted by Blue Grass Fever

Oh yeah, the pseudo-economy i forgot about that was being hollowed out like a house infested with termites. (Is there another saying for "selective-amnesia"?)

UAW member here --- we can debate on the finer points of labor as it pertains to the economy and its' history in its' entirety. It's up to you.....

Yep, Bush presided over Congress when the policies were set in place for our demise. If a fantastic meal is spoiled by food poisoning caused by the cooks bad prep skills does the cook still get credit?

[Darkatt]

Originally Posted by artsyguy

And why can't gays have civil marriages yet? They have blocked their marriages numerous times. It is completely unconstitutional and must not only be corrected by taking down the Defense of Marriage Act but to allow them to marry in some civil form in every state; they must also announce a deep and heartfelt public apology to the gay community for this stratification and then extend an olive branch to the top gay leaders (if there are any).

Gay people can get married every single day of the week. What they cannot do is marry someone of the same sex. So your observation that they cannot "marry" is inexact.

I am all for a civil union for gay couples, with all the rights and responsibilities that opposite sex couples receive when married.

It is a states issue, not a federal issue as far as I am concerned. If a state wishes to allow it, fine. If a state doesn't want it, again, fine. That's the WHOLE REASON we have separate states, because each can enact their own laws, differing from each other, and people can move and inhabit the states with laws most closely aligned to their way of life and beliefs.

Now, as for the rest of the Union rep's ranting letter,

4 of those 8 years, we had a Democratically controlled House of Representatives, and Senate. Nothing happens without their consent, so the idea that everything that happened for 8 years is the fault of George Bush is disingenuous at best.

Additionally, if one looks at what happened during his Presidency, the economy faltered after the democratically controlled congress forced through the increase in minimum wage. At that time, both artificially inflating the wages of some, and deflating the wages of everyone else who was already making more than minimum wage, this started the fall of the economy. Add to that all the people who banks were forced to provide home loans to that couldn't afford these loans, when their earnings went south, so did the housing market, as it was already unsustainable, adding the proverbial feather caused the camel's back to break.

Lastly, I think the only good union, is a credit union. While in the past they helped out, now all they do is push through unsustainable wage and benefits packages that are causing the downfall of the many companies.

A good example is Northwest Airlines, as they were forced into bankruptcy. In 2005 they started asking for concessions from the unions because they were losing money left and right. Below is the article, in bankruptcy, trying to re-organize so that the airline remains viable and people have jobs, unions are still trying to go on strike and force everyone to lose their jobs, Stupid.

Appeals court upholds Northwest Airlines strike ban - USATODAY.com

Boeing Busts the Union (BA)