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Old 05-29-2011, 10:35 AM
 
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But no other motorcycle has the class and tradition of Harley Davidson, not even Triumph (which is the 2nd best bike in the world)
Class and tradition is nice, but if the claim is that "US motorcycles are number 1", shouldn't we also pay at least some attention to motorcycle characteristics like speed, acceleration, power, handling? Looks, even? Innovation, perhaps?
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Old 05-29-2011, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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America's Three Stooges will always be number one.
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Old 05-29-2011, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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Institutional racism
KKK Memberships
Rednecks with guns
Invading and fighting wars
Institutional Racism -While this has been a serious problem in America, much of Asia and Africa make the U.S. look like a 24/7 kumbaya party. There is probably no other country in the world with the exception of some of our peers in Europe where someone with radically different looks, religion, language, and customs can come and be a success with minimal interference.

KKK membership -American phenomenon, therefore not applicable to this discussion. As said above, if you mean racist organizations, Russia is near the top if not firmly atop this.

Rednecks with guns -If rednecks must be White by definition, then you are probably correct. If redneck is being used as a generic term for illiterate, suspicious country people who will shoot (or at least threaten) unfamiliar people, then a lot of places in the Americas, Africa, and Asia are serious contenders for this one. Mexico, where banditry and highwaymen who target wealthy Whites (Mexican and foreigners) far outshines the U.S. in this regard.

Invading and fighting wars -Yup, America is definitely #1 on this for the present.
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Old 05-29-2011, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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obesity
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Old 05-29-2011, 03:46 PM
 
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Class and tradition is nice, but if the claim is that "US motorcycles are number 1", shouldn't we also pay at least some attention to motorcycle characteristics like speed, acceleration, power, handling? Looks, even? Innovation, perhaps?
Potato, potato, potato!

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Old 05-29-2011, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Golf courses.

Food production.

Music.

Innovation.
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Old 05-29-2011, 04:41 PM
 
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Well we can lie about HD I guess. I wouldn't be caught calling it all American. It was, and was if s the key word now. I had 2 74's there were, another key word, were.

These days the fenders are made in Mexico, the carbs and injection are made in Japan, the wiring harness are German made. A real HD has a cast iron engine, that is not rubber mounted.

However, they are building perhaps the finest cruiser bike one can own, and seling a dream / life style very well. I have a problem right there. The dammned chinese junk, and the ken and barbie sets. I am not the type to buy into a brand name for shirts, jackets boots, underwear, sun glasses, cherry friggin coffee tables, and the myraid of junk and crap with HD logo on it.

I have one HD logo on my jacket, it's broken wings. Someone ELSE bought them for me and that dammned patch was made in you guessed it Red Commie China, but I still wear it, since I earned it. I still pray HD does well enough they don't end up building the bikes in India. I like the icon and the idea of How America USED to be still and very much. I am glad in someways that idea is being sold.

To me it means, maybe, some young guy who owned 6 foreign bikes first and is looking thru rose tinted glasses, that just maybe he has some valid American Values. I frigging Hope So!

Triumph being 2nd best is very debatable... I owned a mess of them in Bonnies. BSA, Enfield, Atlas, Norton, and event a Trident. The newer ones are their best of there ever best, but still they tend to have finiky moments.

If anyone wants we can swap Lucas Jokes
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Old 05-29-2011, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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America will never be beaten in!

1, Hot air coming from every direction. The left the right and inbetween.

2, Neverending complaining about everything imaginable.

3, Institutionalized exageration, media, books, politics, movies. Everything is portrayed as bigger, better, worser, richer, poorer, sexier, eviler, gooder and badder than it is in reality.

4,The carney culture of, "there is a sucker born every minute". It pervades everything in life from investment schemes to snake oil cure all remedies. Evangalists that are out and out crooks, politicians that promise the sun the moon and the starts. Americans fall for them every time.

5, No country will ever equal the natural beauty and wonder of America. It's impossible. There might be some that are equal in one area or another but not close in the huge diversity of American natural beauty.

6, Last one. I don't think there will ever be a country that gives as much to the poor and the hungry the disposessed. Those effected by natural disasters, plagues, wars and other clamities.
PS, As long as they are foreigners and not Americans.
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Old 05-29-2011, 05:00 PM
 
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America will never be beaten in!

1, Hot air coming from every direction. The left the right and inbetween.

2, Neverending complaining about everything imaginable.

3, Institutionalized exageration, media, books, politics, movies. Everything is portrayed as bigger, better, worser, richer, poorer, sexier, eviler, gooder and badder than it is in reality.

4,The carney culture of, "there is a sucker born every minute". It pervades everything in life from investment schemes to snake oil cure all remedies. Evangalists that are out and out crooks, politicians that promise the sun the moon and the starts. Americans fall for them every time.

5, No country will ever equal the natural beauty and wonder of America. It's impossible. There might be some that are equal in one area or another but not close in the huge diversity of American natural beauty.

6, Last one. I don't think there will ever be a country that gives as much to the poor and the hungry the disposessed. Those effected by natural disasters, plagues, wars and other clamities.
PS, As long as they are foreigners and not Americans.

I hope your correct, but wonder. If we are it will be from with in, not anyone as a enemy other than US. As I see the Govt is dividing US, and has been a very long time.
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Old 05-29-2011, 06:15 PM
 
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America will always be number for christian loonies!
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