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Conservative cities are by definition destined to be dead boring places. They refuse change when change is a universal truth.
Conservatives believe in free market capitalism and economic freedom, which always leads to creative destruction (look it up if you aren't familiar with the term).
Liberals believe in Big Government Central Planners dictating every single aspect of everyone's life and enforce it with the massive regulatory state, which prevents dynamic change.
Liberals believe in a massive welfare state which can only be supported by massive taxation on success and achievement. Without capital to invest in new enterprises, there is less change. With more money going to the government and less to the private sector, there is less change.
Liberals support unions, which refuse any and all changes in the dynamic global marketplace making them less competitive with non-unionized companies who don't have to deal with hundreds of pages of union rules that prevent them from innovating. Unions hate new technology because that means new procedures and inventions take less time to do the same task, and fight like tooth and nail from getting them implemented. Unions fight for less productivity not greater productivity, which leads to more change.
So whoever thinks liberalism promotes change is simply wrong. It is free market capitalism (supported by conservatives) that promotes the greatest change.
And then you have Obama lamenting that ATMs were ever invented because they decreased the number of workers needed in banks.
Conservatives believe in free market capitalism and economic freedom, which always leads to creative destruction (look it up if you aren't familiar with the term).
Liberals believe in Big Government Central Planners dictating every single aspect of everyone's life and enforce it with the massive regulatory state, which prevents dynamic change.
Liberals believe in a massive welfare state which can only be supported by massive taxation on success and achievement. Without capital to invest in new enterprises, there is less change. With more money going to the government and less to the private sector, there is less change.
Liberals support unions, which refuse any and all changes in the dynamic global marketplace making them less competitive with non-unionized companies who don't have to deal with hundreds of pages of union rules that prevent them from innovating. Unions hate new technology because that means new procedures and inventions take less time to do the same task, and fight like tooth and nail from getting them implemented. Unions fight for less productivity not greater productivity, which leads to more change.
So whoever thinks liberalism promotes change is simply wrong. It is free market capitalism (supported by conservatives) that promotes the greatest change.
And then you have Obama lamenting that ATMs were ever invented because they decreased the number of workers needed in banks.
So, who is really against change???
Oh yes, because conservative cities are as successful as liberal cities such as NYC, Seattle and San Francisco
Oh yes, because conservative cities are as successful as liberal cities such as NYC, Seattle and San Francisco
All cities are liberal. It is the conservative sections (i.e. business sections) that bring in all the revenue, create all the innovations, and create all the tax revenues that fund the well-intentioned but failed socialist policies.
Now we have a federal government run by the economically illiterate who want to punish success and accomplishment (those who provide jobs and paychecks to the middle class and poor and fund the government coffers).
A simple question for these Socialists: After you destroy the job creators with your war on business and Marxist class warfare demonization of the successful, who's going to fund your Socialist Utopia?
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Liberals believe in Big Government Central Planners dictating every single aspect of everyone's life and enforce it with the massive regulatory state, which prevents dynamic change.
Liberals believe in a massive welfare state which can only be supported by massive taxation on success and achievement. Without capital to invest in new enterprises, there is less change. With more money going to the government and less to the private sector, there is less change.
There is no Marxism or socialism in the US. Conservatives throw these words around without understanding them. Socialism involves the collective ownership of the means of production - i.e. banks, factories, mines, farms, etc. Raising taxes by 2% or having a social welfare net are not examples of Marxism. Welfare was actually pioneered by Bismarck to protect capitalism by shielding the poor from the most extreme excesses of the free market and thereby preventing them from sympathizing with Marxist ideals.
Conservatives believe in free market capitalism and economic freedom...So whoever thinks liberalism promotes change is simply wrong. It is free market capitalism (supported by conservatives) that promotes the greatest change...
*filler topped with an off topic jab at Obama that has nothing to do with thread*...
So, who is really against change???
Conservatives believe in free market capitalism with a heavy helping of government intervention (and child labor when it was legal). Clearly the words of someone who doesn't know what they're talking about and even clearer that someone can't accept the fact that conservative cities are lackluster in large part because of backwards conservative mentalities that help make them so. Liberals are the ones who brought change btw: theocracy to representative democracy, slavery to equality, etc, etc, etc.
Liberal cities, especially when it comes to social liberalism and urban polices, clearly stand out ahead as great places to live and visit. And where conservative cities have anything worth visiting you can bet it's the small liberal population making the best of a not-so-ideal place. It's also telling that you can scale all the way down to small towns and by and large the ones worth visiting, where people enjoy life, are likewise liberal.
So, your short answer I take it to the question at hand on coolness is "no" like I said and I'm guessing that somehow Obama is responsible for conservative cities not able to match the coolness of liberal ones.
All cities are liberal. It is the conservative sections (i.e. business sections) that bring in all the revenue, create all the innovations, and create all the tax revenues that fund the well-intentioned but failed socialist policies.
Now we have a federal government run by the economically illiterate who want to punish success and accomplishment (those who provide jobs and paychecks to the middle class and poor and fund the government coffers).
A simple question for these Socialists: After you destroy the job creators with your war on business and Marxist class warfare demonization of the successful, who's going to fund your Socialist Utopia?
A simple (rhetorical) question for you: when would one of us "socialists" (and please for the love of God take a remedial course in politics) ever run into you at a place like, say, Donnie Dirk's Zombie Den? Umm...never? OK, thought so. Thanks for doing your part in adding more proof that no, conservative cities will never be as cool as their liberal counterparts. Great job!
Don't put Dallas in the same category as OKC or Jacksonville until you've actually BEEN there.
And I think you can even make exceptions for J-ville as well...
If Dallas was more walkable, it would be cool. It has everything else one would look for in a cool city except walkability and public transportation. If you don't mind owning a car, one can make a very good life in Dallas.
There are plenty of cool neighborhoods in Dallas. Its actually a pretty balanced city, with the city proper leaning liberal with some VERY liberal districts, such as Oak Lawn. Personally, I wish I lived in Dallas instead of OKC.
OKC and Jacksonville are probably the two most "uncool" cities over 1 million in the nation. I would give Jacksonville a slight edge but they are both have the perception of being terrible for their size. Is it because they are conservative or despite of it?
OKC and Jacksonville are probably the two most "uncool" cities over 1 million in the nation. I would give Jacksonville a slight edge but they are both have the perception of being terrible for their size. Is it because they are conservative or despite of it?
It's because downtown Jacksonville is dead as a doorknob.
While it's not over 1 million (the CSA is, but the MSA isn't), Greenville, SC is rather conservative--maybe even more so than Jacksonville and OKC--but doesn't have the perception of being "uncool" because it has a very vibrant, walkable, attractive downtown. Jacksonville in particular has almost all the advantages any city its size in the South could want: a great location along a river, close proximity to the beach, great weather, a good grid system, historic neighborhoods, a somewhat intact historic urban fabric, etc. Yet it has not harnessed these advantages to become a progressive, vibrant city that attracts a wide range of folks, especially young professionals. Other cities, like Charlotte, have done a lot more with less due to progressive civic and business leadership, something Jacksonville is sorely lacking. I think with all the progress it's making, OKC will begin shedding its "uncool" reputation slowly but surely.
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