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You nailed this. Why should they bring it up for a vote? They worked their backsides off to pass it last year, and the majority of Americans support it. They know the R's are just playing games because the Prez wouldn't sign it, so why bother? My bet is that a good number of R Congressional members don't personally disagree with the need for the health care legislation, but they don't want to give the D's an inch on getting it done, and they're trying to appease the far right of their base. If they were really against government health care, then I guess they'd be declining their own Congressional health care package as well, but that hasn't happened, has it? Instead, they're blowing smoke, screaming and yelling at the Senate, when they know they're not going to get anywhere, but it looks great for their base on FOX.
Originally Posted by stillkit Maybe, maybe not, but the question isn't why doesn't he allow a vote, but why should he?
Well, for one thing, if it's so great then as a Democrat wouldn't you want to be able to tell your constituents that you voted in favour of keeping it come 2012?
Don't bother answering because we already know they want to run as far away from voting for it as they possibly can.
So the senators could vote up or down instead of hide behind is dress
Sorry, but they've already voted on it up or down last session. How do you think it got passed?
Don't forget this, though the GOP would like you to: They were invited to participate in writing the legislation, even invited to the health care summit with the President. Their input was solicited and eagerly awaited.
But, they chose not to be involved with it. Instead, they opted to offer up their own bill and when the majority refused to consider it (not surprisingly since the Dem's had their own bill by then) the GOP STILL didn't come on board. Rather than take part in crafting an important piece of legislation which would affect all American's, they tried to stop the Congress from considering anything in a fit of pique because the majority wouldn't cave into their demands and discard their own bill. Not surprisingly, the GOP was steamrolled. Which was just what the GOP wanted them to as their only goal throughout the whole process was to make themselves look good for the 2010 election.
Now, they're claiming "Foul!", as if the Democrats are responsible for their own dereliction of duty and trying to paint them as opponents of The People's Will!
If so many ill-informed, memory-challenged ideologist's weren't believing that lie, it would be hilarious.
I think most Americans support the broad aspects of the law, like banning pre-existing conditions, banning insurers from dropping you when getting sick, closing the Medicare doughnut hole, allowing sons and daughters to stay on your insurance plan until they are 26, making sure that almost every legal US citizen has insurance, and lifting lifetime caps on payouts. I truly believe that most Americans support those goals.
...and Republicans would have worked with Democrats to pass legislation towards those goals without any mandate back when they were being shut out of all discussions concerning HC.
Sorry, but they've already voted on it up or down last session. How do you think it got passed?
Don't forget this, though the GOP would like you to: They were invited to participate in writing the legislation, even invited to the health care summit with the President. Their input was solicited and eagerly awaited.
But, they chose not to be involved with it. Instead, they opted to offer up their own bill and when the majority refused to consider it (not surprisingly since the Dem's had their own bill by then) the GOP STILL didn't come on board. Rather than take part in crafting an important piece of legislation which would affect all American's, they tried to stop the Congress from considering anything in a fit of pique because the majority wouldn't cave into their demands and discard their own bill. Not surprisingly, the GOP was steamrolled. Which was just what the GOP wanted them to as their only goal throughout the whole process was to make themselves look good for the 2010 election.
Now, they're claiming "Foul!", as if the Democrats are responsible for their own dereliction of duty and trying to paint them as opponents of The People's Will!
If so many ill-informed, memory-challenged ideologist's weren't believing that lie, it would be hilarious.
No they have not voted up and down on the bill to repeal.
They were invited to participate in writing the legislation, even invited to the health care summit with the President. Their input was solicited and eagerly awaited.
But, they chose not to be involved with it.
You seem to have poor recollection skills.
You don't remember the closed-door "No Republicans Allowed" meetings.
What about have to bribe their OWN to buy their votes?
...and Republicans would have worked with Democrats to pass legislation towards those goals without any mandate back when they were being shut out of all discussions concerning HC.
No, the Republicans would not have worked with the Democrats to enact unconstitutional legislation. At least those Republicans who wanted to remain in office after 2010. The federal government has no constitutional authority to involve themselves in the nation's health care in any way, shape, or form. That is a power reserved only to the States.
I think most Americans support the broad aspects of the law, like banning pre-existing conditions, banning insurers from dropping you when getting sick, closing the Medicare doughnut hole, allowing sons and daughters to stay on your insurance plan until they are 26, making sure that almost every legal US citizen has insurance, and lifting lifetime caps on payouts. I truly believe that most Americans support those goals.
Republicans have stated many times that both parties agree on some aspects of the bill, but the manner in which this bill was decided upon and voted on were wrong. Democrats refused to simply pass a smaller, more specific bill that both parties agreed upon.
BTW, what state allows health insurance companies withing their state to drop a person simply because they got sick???
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