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Obama says closed-door meetings on health care were a mistake
President Barack Obama admitted today that his closed-door meetings on health care with Democratic congressional leaders should have been televised on C-SPAN and he said he would keep his campaign promise for more open negotations the next time around.
Democrats defend closed-door process on health bill
House Democrats huddled in private to decide what kind of compromise on health care legislation they would be willing to strike with the Senate while pressure mounts for them to end the secretive nature of the talks. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and her leadership team faced questions about openness after emerging from a closed-door meeting with top committee chairmen on legislation to overhaul the nation's health system.
Reporters demanded to know whether Pelosi would allow cameras to record the negotiations, a request made in writing early Tuesday by C-SPAN Chief Executive Officer Brian Lamb, who reminded Democrats of their earlier pledge to bring transparency to the health care talks.
No, the Republicans would not have worked with the Democrats to enact unconstitutional legislation. At least those Republicans who wanted to remain in office after 2010. The federal government has no constitutional authority to involve themselves in the nation's health care in any way, shape, or form. That is a power reserved only to the States.
Did you notice that I said except for the [unconstitutional] mandate?
I believe the things mentioned could have been agreed upon outside of the mandate and without having a complete government takeover.
If this ObamaCare is SO GREAT, then why is it that the White House has been granting so many companies and unions (that donate to the Democrats) an EXEMPTION?
No, the Republicans would not have worked with the Democrats to enact unconstitutional legislation. At least those Republicans who wanted to remain in office after 2010. The federal government has no constitutional authority to involve themselves in the nation's health care in any way, shape, or form. That is a power reserved only to the States.
Well..if they were so sure they'd win a Supreme Court fight, they wouldn't be trying to take the repeal approach or talking about defunding pieces of it (politically risky, because they could cut off other entitlements like medicare in the process--when they tried shutting down the government under Gingrich it didn't work well for them). They know they're against a wall with this, so they're doing all of this for political purposes--scream and yell--appease the base. There may be pieces of the legislation that they can find bipartisan approval to make positive changes on. No one ever said this was a done deal--the legislation is a start. The truth is, now that lots of "the sky is falling" rhetoric has been debunked, most Americans want this program.
Well..if they were so sure they'd win a Supreme Court fight, they wouldn't be trying to take the repeal approach or talking about defunding pieces of it
Ummmmm....a Supreme Court challenge is years away.
The Country can't afford to wait that long.
Many Republicans defeated their Democratic opponents in the Midterms just on the promise to try to repeal it.
111 Obamacare Waivers And Counting – Can The Rest Of Us Get Waivers From Having To Comply With Obamacare Please?
In a stunning admission of just how job-killing and business-crushing the new health care law really is, the Obama administration has issued a staggering total of 111 Obamacare waivers (and counting) so far. The list of the dozens of companies and organizations that have been approved for a waiver is very, very deeply buried on the website of the Department of Health & Human Services. In fact, it takes six separate clicks to get to the list.
...and Republicans would have worked with Democrats to pass legislation towards those goals without any mandate back when they were being shut out of all discussions concerning HC.
Republicans weren't shut out. The health bill has hundreds of Republican amendments. The Senate Finance Committee had 3 Democrats and 3 Republicans creating a bill for months.
"Obamacare" is based off the 1994 Heritage Foundation proposal and "Romneycare." The individual mandate is a Republican creation from the 90's. The only major differences between "Obamacare" and the Republican counter offer to "Hillarycare" is that "Obamacare" doesn't contain tort reform.
Ummmmm....a Supreme Court challenge is years away.
The Country can't afford to wait that long.
Many Republicans defeated their Democratic opponents in the Midterms just on the promise to try to repeal it.
...and the risk the R's run is that in the meantime, people are going to grow to REALLY LIKE health care reform (they are already) making the whole debate pointless. As the provisions are kicking in, public opinion is already changing. They may have made it a big point in the election, but that doesn't mean it's going to continue to be an issue as people see that the sky isn't going to fall in with this, and it could actually be a positive step. I'm not saying that some changes couldn't be made, but repealing it isn't going to happen, and the odds of winning a supreme court repeal is about zero.
Did you notice that I said except for the [unconstitutional] mandate?
I believe the things mentioned could have been agreed upon outside of the mandate and without having a complete government takeover.
Everything you mentioned is unconstitutional, not just the mandate. The federal government needs to stop usurping powers away from the States, and you clearly need to read the US Constitution.
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