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Of course it is that easy. Should the president want to shut down the government because healthcare is not in the appropriation bill then let him shut it down
I think some of it will depend on what other types of cuts are being proposed. If this is all about health care, I don't think it's going to fly, because it's too easy to portray the R's as protecting their buddies but not helping the American people. If the R's propose serious cuts to major federal costs like the military, they might be taken more seriously. Personally--I don't think that's going to happen.
With the way HCR was structured, the funding goes through already existing programs in most cases. So really the only way the GOP would be able to really defund it is through a government shut down.
Exactly, although my understanding is that funding for the oversight and the administration of the program needs to go through appropriations. If they try to cut the funding for the administration of HCR, I've read that it would also slow or shut down some programs like medicare. That complicates things considerably for the R's.
Not really...they've already said they could defund it.
What they have said doesn't really match up to actual reality. Its not really as simple as they can defund it.
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A recent analysis from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, however, indicates that Republicans may have trouble making significant progress with their strategy of cutting funding to the law.
The overhaul includes $106 billion in new spending authorizations that Congress will eventually need to appropriate, according to Budget Office Director Doug Elmendorf. But $86 billion of those authorizations cover politically sensitive programs that were in existence before the passage of health care reform.
Funding for certain key provisions -- such as the law's Medicaid expansion and the extension of new insurance subsidies -- cannot be cut without a direct repeal vote. Such a move would have little chance of passing the Democratic-controlled Senate.
I hate to burst the "defunding" bubble but it isn't that easy. Again--the Prez has veto power over appropriations bills. If the House fails to put appropriations in for HCR, the Prez will probably threaten to veto it. That would force (or threaten to force) a government shut down, which was pretty much a disaster for the R's under Newt. Again--HCR is rapidly growing in popularity, because people are starting to benefit from the provisions. Cutting funding now would make it an entitlement cut on a program that benefits a very broad spectrum of Americans--not just the poor. Again--very very risky move for the R's.
Sure, and turning everyday Americans into criminals if they didn't buy health insurance was a pretty risky move too .. Can we all say "Mid Terms?"
So they (Democrats) put a few perks in at the onset of the bill .. to sort of sweeten the favor in the beginning .. you can't move on anything social in this country without first having the entitlement class on board .. we'll see what 2014 brings ..
I doubt it will be too popular then .. it may be so unpopular in fact (fiscally and politically) that those of the Harry Reid's among us just might end up supporting it's repeal fully ..
I think some of it will depend on what other types of cuts are being proposed. If this is all about health care, I don't think it's going to fly, because it's too easy to portray the R's as protecting their buddies but not helping the American people. If the R's propose serious cuts to major federal costs like the military, they might be taken more seriously. Personally--I don't think that's going to happen.
One of the options the republicans have is instead on a omnibus appropriations bill they can separate the bills into dept spending or any number of ways they can in fact let Obama decide what to sign what to veto .
So they can defund $20 billlion dollars of it without any problem at all.
They also have the support of the American people.
Perhaps, but even that may not be that easy. Not to mention the American public is much more split on this than you might think.
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