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Old 01-21-2011, 02:49 PM
 
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I hate these thing coming in my email, but this one caught my eye, and just on the wild chance it would work I violated my “don’t pass on” rule and sent it to 20 friends. I thought some of you might also want to have a chance to pass it on too so I have cut and pasted it here for you. At least I am not cluttering up your email.


This makes great sense to me and if you agree please keep the message going.
D.

The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took
only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people
demanded it. That was in 1971...before computers, before e-mail,
before cell phones, etc.

Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less
to become the law of the land...all because of public pressure.

I'm asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty
people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise.

In three days, most people in The United States of America will have
the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.

Congressional Reform Act of 2011

1. Term Limits.

12 years only, one of the possible options below..

A. Two Six-year Senate terms
B. Six Two-year House terms
C. One Six-year Senate term and three Two-Year House terms
OK

2. No Tenure / No Pension.
OK
A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay
when they are out of office.

You have to grandfathger in those already there. Future, OK
3. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.

Since 1985 all pay. Past, again have to be granfathered. Cannot force past laws on to today.

All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social
Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social
Security system, and Congress participates with the American people.

Again. Grandfather clause.

4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all
Americans do.
Covered under 2.

.
5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional
pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
OK

6. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in
the same health care system as the American people.
Congress participates in the same plan all gov't employees participate in. I have no problem with employee based health care.

7. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American
people.
OK

8. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective
1/1/11.
You will have to be more explicit. I was't aware there are any contrcts with congressmen.

The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen.
Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves.


Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers
envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s),
then go home and back to work.
Agreed

If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only
take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive the message.
Maybe it is time.

THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!!!!! If you agree with the above, pass it
on. If not, just delete

You are one of my 20+. Please keep it going.
See above.
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Old 01-21-2011, 02:54 PM
 
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Republicans went ga-ga over this idea back in '94, and got so addicted to the lure of Washington that it fizzed out an hour after they took over.

We have term limits. It's called the ballot box. If the idiots want to keep voting in their incumbent losers, that's their problem.
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Old 01-21-2011, 02:57 PM
 
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The power of money and lobbies has neutered voting in today’s system. The person with the most money wins over and over again.
That is true. Term limits will do nothing to help with that problem. A better suggestion would be more reform on campaign contributions and PACS.
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Old 01-21-2011, 03:10 PM
 
Location: MI
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I think we should think of age limits. Term limits might be fine but how many elected officials do we have over the age of 70? They should be allowed to retire with full benefits and a pension. IMO
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Old 01-21-2011, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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That is true. Term limits will do nothing to help with that problem. A better suggestion would be more reform on campaign contributions and PACS.
Hows about a better educated set of voters ?
Nah..that would be impossible.
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Old 01-21-2011, 03:16 PM
 
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Absolutely not. Term limits are silly. If voters don't like a representative, they are free to elect someone new.
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Old 01-21-2011, 03:17 PM
 
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Hows about a better educated set of voters ?
Nah..that would be impossible.
LOL...yea, it would.

Some people think we'd be better off without the primary system. Not sure about that. But so few people vote in primaries that i wonder if they're a waste of time.
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Old 01-21-2011, 03:23 PM
 
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Hows about a better educated set of voters ?
Nah..that would be impossible.
Based on some of the posters on C-D we have a long way to go. Some people don't want to be edumacated.
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Old 01-21-2011, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Hows about a better educated set of voters ?
Nah..that would be impossible.
A lot of people emphasize that we're a republic, not a democracy. A lot of these people also believe that being a republic, not all participants are equal. In fact, the idea that only property owners be allowed to vote has been floated already. So, nothing if impossible. It just depends if we ever get to a point where the balance is lost and a mob rule does take over.

But, the way I see it, education alone is not a cure. It is about the information being put out there. Which takes us back to a question I asked you earlier... do political contributions matter?
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Old 01-21-2011, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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A lot of people emphasize that we're a republic, not a democracy. A lot of these people also believe that being a republic, not all participants are equal. In fact, the idea that only property owners be allowed to vote has been floated already. So, nothing if impossible. It just depends if we ever get to a point where the balance is lost and a mob rule does take over.

But, the way I see it, education alone is not a cure. It is about the information being put out there. Which takes us back to a question I asked you earlier... do political contributions matter?
It didn't and doesn't matter to me. I do research on individual people and read both sides of opinion pieces on them and then form my own opinion.

I admit I don't do that with each elected office but the major ones I do..my Congress reps, Governor, President of the US.

Big corporations and banks contribute to both sides so they can uphold their "fairness" so it really doesn't influence my voting.
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