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Old 01-24-2011, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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The liberals will not, and have not answered the question, all they do is shoot at the messenger.

0bama is engaging in cronyism, and using taxpayer money to do it, contrary to what liberals think, this does not make him a capitalist, it makes him a thief. Then again, why is this a shock, when the foundation of liberalism, wealth redistribution, is an immoral act. The very bricks and mortar of liberalism is theft, thru the active use of force by government.

Still can't get one lib to decry 0bama's engagement in crony capitalism, nor the incestuous relationship between 0bama, big corporations, Wall Street investors and big unions. ..........crickets..............
So, is Obama a socialist?
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Old 01-24-2011, 03:31 PM
 
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The liberals will not, and have not answered the question, all they do is shoot at the messenger.

0bama is engaging in cronyism, and using taxpayer money to do it, contrary to what liberals think, this does not make him a capitalist, it makes him a thief. Then again, why is this a shock, when the foundation of liberalism, wealth redistribution, is an immoral act. The very bricks and mortar of liberalism is theft, thru the active use of force by government.

Still can't get one lib to decry 0bama's engagement in crony capitalism, nor the incestuous relationship between 0bama, big corporations, Wall Street investors and big unions. ..........crickets..............
Tell you what...go first! If you openly admit that you normally like crony capitalism so long as a right-winger is participating in it, i'll decry Obama's behavior.

Deal?
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Old 01-24-2011, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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So, is Obama a socialist?
Along the lines of a Fabian socialist, yes, he is. Fabians believe in gradual nationalization of the economy by manipulating the democratic process. If 0bama thinks he can get there by using a corporate CEO like Immelt, then why wouldn't he? It's not like Immelt has anything to worry about, he is guaranteed to get his golden parachute.

Do you think trying to nationalize the US healthcare system is not a socialist thing to do??

If 0bama were a citizen of any other country, he would be in a socialist party. If he were a citizen of the UK, he would be in the Labor Party, if he were in France, Germany or Spain, he'd be in their socialist party, or maybe their green party, because he is a socialist at heart.

But evade and dodge holding 0bama accountable for engaging in crony capitalism, just like all the other people on the left who have been posting in this thread.
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Old 02-03-2011, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Jan 03, 2011 - EPA To Enforce New Emission Rules On Power Plants.

The Environmental Protection Agency this week starts regulating greenhouse gases from power plants and other big polluters for the first time. The rules only apply to new construction and major expansions.


Feb 02, 2011 - The Obama administration will spare a stalled power plant project in California from the newest federal limits on greenhouse gases and conventional air pollution. <LINK>

The power generation plant will be using two natural gas-fired General Electric 7FA Gas Turbines with Heat Recovery Steam Generators (HRSG) and one General Electric Steam Turbine.
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Old 02-03-2011, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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Feb 02, 2011 - The Obama administration will spare a stalled power plant project in California from the newest federal limits on greenhouse gases and conventional air pollution. <LINK>

The power generation plant will be using two natural gas-fired General Electric 7FA Gas Turbines with Heat Recovery Steam Generators (HRSG) and one General Electric Steam Turbine.
We need power plants. General Electric is a fine manufacturer. The fact that Obama's masters ordered it doesn't mean rational individuals should be opposed to it.
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:04 AM
 
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Only when republicans are in office do the libs give a crap about corporate cronyism and corporate welfare, or where our tax dollars are going to.

Two weeks after 0bama's January 2009 inaugural address: Jeff Immelt sends out a memo to his shareholders:

"The interaction between government and business will change forever. In a reset economy, the government will be a regulator; and also an industry policy champion, a financier, and a key partner." <LINK>


Feb 06, 2009 - President Barack Obama has named Jeffrey Immelt, CEO of NBC Universal parent GE, to his new economic advisory board. <LINK>

Jeffrey Immelt was correct, from here on in, 0bama begins using the federal government and taxpayer dollars in a shameless campaign of corny capitalism with GE and Immelt.


March 2009 - 0bama signs an Executive Order to allow the National Institutes of Health (NIH) to fund research using embryonic stem cells, and GE announces they are getting into the stem cell business.

June 2009 - GE Healthcare, a unit of General Electric Company (NYSE: GE), and Geron Corporation (Nasdaq: GERN) today announced that they have entered into a global exclusive license and alliance agreement to develop and commercialize cellular assay products derived from human embryonic stem cells (hESCs) for use in drug discovery, development and toxicity screening. The program will use stem cells derived from hESC lines listed on the NIH Human Pluripotent Stem Cell Registry. Financial terms are not being disclosed. <LINK> (http://www.geron.com/media/pressview.aspx?id=1181 - broken link)


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January 2010 -MIAMI — President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden will on Thursday direct $8 billion in economic stimulus funding toward a long-awaited US high-speed rail system. <LINK>

In April 2009 0bama says: "Imagine what a great project that would be to rebuild America. Building a new system of high-speed rail in America will be faster, cheaper and easier than building more freeways or adding to an already overburdened aviation system –- and everybody stands to benefit." <LINK>


In May, 2009 - "Simonelli hopes the new Evolution model could mark the beginning of something else -- the return of GE Transportation to the passenger train business. GE, which built more than 300 Genesis model passenger locomotives during the 1990s, wants to be a player in that industry, Simonelli said.

"GE has the know-how and the manufacturing base to develop the next generation of high-speed passenger locomotives," he said. "We are ready to partner with the federal government and Amtrak to make high-speed rail a reality." <LINK>

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June 2009 - GE hires Linda Daschle as a lobbyist, the wife of Tom Daschle, the former Senate Democratic Leader and Obama's first pick to head the Department of Health and Human Services. <LINK>

Can you spell Crony Capitalism?
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Here we have a recipient of tens of millions from the 0bama stimulus, is buying cars from GM, a recipient of TARP…. And around and around we go… weeeeeeeeeee…..


Under the Economic Recovery and Reinvestment Act, each manufacturer of electric-drive vehicles will be entitled to tax breaks. Consumers who buy plug-in vehicles will also be entitled to a tax credit of $5,000 depending on the size of the battery as measured in kilowatt hours. The credits start at $2,500 and increase by $417 for every kilowatt hour of battery capacity in excess of four kwh. The Volt is rated at 16kWh, which equates to $7,500: $2,500 + $5,000 ($417 x 12 excess kwh = $5,004).

November 2010 - GE said Thursday it will buy 25,000 electric vehicles for its fleet through 2015 in the largest-ever purchase of electric cars.

GE will begin with an initial purchase of 12,000 vehicles from
General Motor Co., starting with Chevy Volt in 2011. The conglomerate said it "will add other vehicles as manufacturers expand their electric vehicle profiles." <LINK>


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General Electric is hoping to tap into $2 trillion worth of government stimulus spending over the next three years to beef up revenue in its energy infrastructure division, including renewable energies such as wind and thermal power. <LINK>

Jan 21, 2011 -President Obama is launching a new economic advisory council focused on job creation and competitiveness and has named General Electric chief executive Jeffrey Immelt as its head, the administration announced early Friday morning. <LINK>

Remember this quote??

Feb 2009 - "The interaction between government and business will change forever. In a reset economy, the government will be a regulator; and also an industry policy champion, a financier, and a key partner."

And this one:

"Every single great idea that has marked the 21st century, the 20th century and the 19th century has required government vision and government incentive." – Joe Biden Oct 2010


Seems like there is a lot of back scratching going on between our government and the mega corporations like GE and GM, and they are using our tax dollars to pleasure themselves.

...and the liberals seem fine with this? If you want to see crony capitalism, look no further then the 0bama administration.

Ever since 0bama was elected he has been handing out hundreds of BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars, in an incestuous dance between government, GM, taxpayer dollars and GE. Somebody's getting rich, and it isn't the American public. 0bama has "saved or created" sooooo many jobs, that we are still sitting over 9% unemployment.

I'm so glad that during "the worst economy since the Great Depression" that 0bama can put our hard earned taxpayer dollars to work, making GE rich.
Not sure who hasn't gotten the memo that the poor, middle class and rich take it in the butt together from the Dems and Republs.

The only people who don't are themselves and those truly wealthy and connected.
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:07 AM
 
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We need power plants. General Electric is a fine manufacturer. The fact that Obama's masters ordered it doesn't mean rational individuals should be opposed to it.
And you don't see the corrupt connection here?
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Ahhhh, Obama is everything all at once! It doesn't matter if the terms are mutually exclusive.

Why not just start reading off the dictionary at people.

Doesn't really matter what is said, people who believe all this crap don't really know what many words actually mean anyways.
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Old 02-03-2011, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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We need power plants. General Electric is a fine manufacturer. The fact that Obama's masters ordered it doesn't mean rational individuals should be opposed to it.
I wish they would build more baseload power generation.
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Old 02-03-2011, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Not sure who hasn't gotten the memo that the poor, middle class and rich take it in the butt together from the Dems and Republs.

The only people who don't are themselves and those truly wealthy and connected.
I'm sick and tired of politicians lining the pockets of their cronies, once they get into office. 0bama is no different then some of the worst examples of politics and corporate cronyism. That is one reason I would like to see a drastic reduction in earmarks.
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