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Yes 14 14.58%
No 19 19.79%
Not sure 1 1.04%
He changed ? 43 44.79%
He changed, but I can't trust it 13 13.54%
??? 6 6.25%
Voters: 96. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-22-2011, 11:19 AM
 
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That is my thoughts too. Just because FOX and Limbaugh say he was anti-business, doesn't mean it was the truth.
As a business owner I will say Obama is anti-business.
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Old 01-22-2011, 11:26 AM
 
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That is my thoughts too. Just because FOX and Limbaugh say he was anti-business, doesn't mean it was the truth.
You have it backwards. He's not anti-business because Rush says so. Rush says he is anti-business because he IS anti-business. Happy to help clear the fog for you.
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Old 01-22-2011, 11:27 AM
 
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As a business owner I will say Obama is anti-business.
Ditto here. I have put my warehouse expansion on Hold for two years now because of MaObama, and if he thinks will will 1099 customers, he is more delusional than even I thought.
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Old 01-22-2011, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Inyokern, CA
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...well if talk radio agrees with you, it must be true.

I listen to that for 5 minutes and dissect their arguments.
If one has the background in history and politics, one cannot "dissect" their arguments. Or maybe one has to live long enough to have experienced background and some of that history to be able to know truth from fiction/spin.

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No one's asking for politicians to run the show - least of all Obama who has invested extraordinary resources into making sure businesses can keep running the show.
Now I will disagree vehemently with this statement. Of course the politicians, especially the Dems during the last 4 years, are trying to run things. Look at what they have crammed down the throats of the population even when the populations made it clear they didn't want these policies and spending. As for business and BO...I have never seen anyone as anti business as this guy! And that conclusion comes from my own experience of over 55 years in the business and political worlds, including international experience.



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I don't want to get into that debate, but only chimed in because the Constitution is a broad document that can be interpreted many ways, which is in sharp contrast to the Tea Party movement that seems to believe their limited interpretation and selective passages are the only one that exists.
I don't "debate" unless the subject is debatable because there is no right or wrong to the subject. The Constitution is NOT as "broad" as you seem to have concluded. Maybe that's a direct cause of not having had the experience in life needed to understand what our Constitution really means and why it was written to mean what it does.

Guess there is a faction today that is as scared of the "Tea Party" positions and reasons for standing up and shouting "not only NO but H*ll NO" thinking perhaps instead of England and the Redcoats being thrown out of power that today's "good old boys" will be thrown out. Ya think?

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Old 01-22-2011, 01:24 PM
 
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Obama needs to give up on compromising with the GOP. The right is never going to respect him. They have no interest in helping him clean up the mess Bush left behind. The people that actually voted him into office feel disappointed. Also Obama is considering making Joe Liberman the next defense secretary...
Bush left a mole hill. Obama turned it into a mountain. Stop blaming Bush! Obama is in his 3rd year. Reality has got to set into you libs right about now. Give blame where blame is due.
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Old 01-22-2011, 01:34 PM
 
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Bush left a mole hill. Obama turned it into a mountain. Stop blaming Bush! Obama is in his 3rd year. Reality has got to set into you libs right about now. Give blame where blame is due.
Everything was fine with the economy until the second half of the second term. You remember. Just about the time Pelosi and her brown-shirted fellow travelers took over control of Congress. But of course, the snivers never mention that. Just like then never mentioned that the economy under Clinton was in the tank until the 104th Newt Gingrich, Contract with America Congress kicked the gerbils out and put grown-ups in charge.
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Old 01-22-2011, 02:21 PM
 
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I don't think it's a "new" Obama--I feel like we're getting the old one back. He seems to be back in the game--the first two years of his presidency have been spent trying to deal with one crisis after another, and it was looking like all of it had taken a real toll on him--now he seems to be back, with the energy and resolve of the person we elected.
Exactly what crisis was he dealing with. The beer summit? Losing the Olympics? All those golf games?

Back? Seriously? His heads been so far out of the game, it's not even funny. Think he'll say jobs are the number one priority in his State of the Unions address? AGAIN.
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Old 01-22-2011, 02:32 PM
 
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Exactly what crisis was he dealing with. The beer summit? Losing the Olympics? All those golf games?

Back? Seriously? His heads been so far out of the game, it's not even funny. Think he'll say jobs are the number one priority in his State of the Unions address? AGAIN.
Maybe his stomach parasites have migrated to something a little higher up, something a little grayer, more nicotine-addicted, more in need of idiot-boards in order to speak with elementary-school kids. It all fits. My God, what has happened to us - oh yes, Obama happen(s)(ed).
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Old 01-22-2011, 02:36 PM
 
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Ditto here. I have put my warehouse expansion on Hold for two years now because of MaObama, and if he thinks will will 1099 customers, he is more delusional than even I thought.
Warehouse expansion...huh?

Yeaaaah. So why did you put it on hold for 2 years? That would mean that you had plans to put it on hold BEFORE he ever became president, or at least the next day after he walked into the White House.

Odd that your plans for an "expansion" came up just as Obama became the prez...but then you quickly changed your mind before he ever had a chance to sign a single bill.
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Old 01-22-2011, 05:06 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Obama seems different, much more open to business, I'm happy he changed
What about you ?
You're being duped. Obama hasn't changed. Does a leopard change his spots?

What makes you think he has changed? What evidence is there? He's still pushing the same old horse manure.

Why would he suddenly change?
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