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What's being overlooked in all of the recent shooting mania is that there was nothing that could have stopped someone from driving through the crowd of people with a large auto. I see a lot of automobile ads on tv doing crazy stuff.
Banning such ads wouldn't violate the Second Amendment, but it would violate the First.
Do you really think someone not already disposed to gun crimes will suddenly get the urge for a little mayhem because s/he sees an ad for a Colt Python in a magazine?
There is another issue involving firearms that deserve debate. The widespread marketing, advertising and sales of firearms. I illustrate this with my personal copy of the NRA's Rifleman Magazine and ads in it. What this Liberal voice is a card carrying NRA member! I am also an AARP member which has a blind spot to senior citizen entitlements so it shouldn't be such a surprise. Now I get Rifleman because it is a interesting read and I believe in knowing an opponent. Now I can see the ads for the John Wayne Commemorative Rifle, the cheap German Mausers from some cache in Texas(get em while they last) and the long range, night eqipped sniper scope (I can see a real need when I am out at night and want to bring a deer down ar 1500 ft). I even got a chuckle from an ad for The Officers Answer, I think it would have been better ad copy if it read "The Answer to Police Officers" but thats just me. Now the ad that went beyond the pale. The full page ad for "Cheaper Than Dirt" Americas Ultimate Shooting Sports Discounter where it is "Simply a click to buy at cheaper than dirt prices. Half the ad touts enhanced magazines, a 30 rounder for a Glock 17 is listed at $24.97. I didn't know you could get a spare magazines for your AK-47 for only $11.97. They also have a military style assault rifle with optical sight. I find an ad like this disgusting at many levels. I think something should be done. Years ago the airwaves and print media were chocked with advertising. for cigarrettes Cigarette ads had somes of Americas cultural icons. The Marlboro Man, The Camel, The Lucky Strike and the I'd Rather Fight than Switch Shinner of Benson and Hedges. We called for Phillip Morris , walked a mile for a Camel and wanted to be the debonair socialite with a Pall Mall.Well cigarrettes did measurable damage to the public well being and health. Although the 1st Ammendment protects free speach society recognized there are common sense limits and Congress and the FCC banned cigartette advertising on public airwaves and then later in print ads. Our airwaves and other media are not infested with ads for smoking or tobacco products. I think this is a place to start in the long battle to get gun fire out of American life and can't see that a advertising ban on guns, gun paraphenia and ammo has any problem with either the 2nd Ammendment or even the !st. Who agrees with this?
It costs 25 cents every time I pull the trigger on on my 1500 dollar AR-15. You think it's too cheap to shoot? B.S.
Besides where do you see gun ads outside of gun and/or outdoorsman publications? If the firearms industry was putting them in "Seventeen" or "People", or if guns and ammo were hocked by colorful cartoon characters on Saturday mornings they maybe I'd agree with you.... otherwise a ban on gun advertising seems entirely ridiculous.
One thing I agree about is how obnoxious it is that so many gun adds work hard to appeal to wannabe armchair comando types. I fail to see how plinking with a semi-auto AK at the local range can make someone feel like they are mowing down "evil towel-heads" in "Hellistan"...or how that would even start to be fun in the first place. Still... banning them won't help anything.
There is nothing cheap about good high quality forged and machined mausers, they are inexpensive for what you get, and by todays stds you get a lot for your money.
If you are paying $11.00 for spare AK mags your getting ripped off, that much dollars should get you 3 (30 rnds mags)
So the idea is to ban the 1st and so ban adds? And by that method ban guns and ammo?
Now I know i write really baddly and mis spell, but I don't write so bad as the first post on this thread. LOL I know I am not 'the one' and so won't complain.
Now as it is 'the one' just happened to be the best gun sales man of the 21st century so far. Unfortunatley, I don't see me living long enough to see any one else better him on this idea.
IMO there should be adds made up like guns are Gold, because guns do accrue in value while the god dammned almighty dollar drops like a rock.
Last, with so many interested in 'Papers Please' well I keep my papers rolled up in my .45 just head of the slug. How fast anyone would want to see my 'papers' really should depend.
Ah, come to think of with no personal insult intended, but that first post is in dire need of a case of Depends.
They can ban firearms related ads when they ban political campaign ads. Not before.
brilliant!!!
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Perhaps the responsible guns owners out there can suggest something.
ok, how about instead of coddling criminals, we lock them up for long periods of time, and make them do hard labor? we can also institute mandatory minimum sentencing for crimes, and for each offense. for instance if you are a first offender committing armed robbery, your get a minimum sentence of 5 years(in place in arizona already). for a second armed robbery offense you get a minimum 7.5 years, adding 2.5 year for each further offense. and you wont be getting free cable tv, or porn, or any other luxuries that free people can get, you get three meals per day, and 8x10 cell, and you work at least 10 hours per day at hard labor. breaking rocks, doing laundry, etc. all the while learning a trade while in prison.
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I was amused by the ad as well. I also mean to buy one of those Mausers just for grins, even though I cannot shoot a rifle very well. At least after the second shot.
nice thing about the mauser is that being a bolt action rifle, you can take your time lining up your second shot.
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If we want to limit firearms ads please include the drug adds on evening TV.
excellent idea. i would also include ads for lawyers and doctors as well.
I think this is a place to start in the long battle to get gun fire out of American life and can't see that a advertising ban on guns, gun paraphenia and ammo has any problem with either the 2nd Ammendment or even the !st. Who agrees with this?
Happy to see that you're reading our fine mag and found the advert entertaining. Perhaps if you actually read some of the articles, it might improve your writing skills- in particular pay attention to the spelling, grammar, sentence structure, and paragraph divisions. We certainly have some fine writers to follow!
To answer your question; It's certainly a violation of the 1st to limit what legal products a company can advertise. There is no possibility that you can "get gun fire out of American life". It is and will remain a citizens right to use firearms for any legal purpose.
If you're thinking of criminal use, there is no solution that will stop predators from abusing our freedoms. What we should be doing is enforcing the enhanced sentencing laws; Plea bargain the basic crime if you like, but no plea bargains for use of a firearm during commission of the crime. This would automatically end immediate probation thus ensuring some jail time- for that period of time the perp is limited to preying on other criminals rather than the general public.
Happy to see that you're reading our fine mag and found the advert entertaining. Perhaps if you actually read some of the articles, it might improve your writing skills- in particular pay attention to the spelling, grammar, sentence structure, and paragraph divisions. We certainly have some fine writers to follow!
To answer your question; It's certainly a violation of the 1st to limit what legal products a company can advertise. There is no possibility that you can "get gun fire out of American life". It is and will remain a citizens right to use firearms for any legal purpose.
If you're thinking of criminal use, there is no solution that will stop predators from abusing our freedoms. What we should be doing is enforcing the enhanced sentencing laws; Plea bargain the basic crime if you like, but no plea bargains for use of a firearm during commission of the crime. This would automatically end immediate probation thus ensuring some jail time- for that period of time the perp is limited to preying on other criminals rather than the general public.
But but but but what about the liberal sheep and their whine?
How can life be possible with out their violent pets, getting recycled on paroll?
I got a better idea. Use their pets for shark chum. Use a weapon in a crime of violence one time, and never again is any other one time a possiblity.
But but but but what about the liberal sheep and their whine?
How can life be possible with out their violent pets, getting recycled on paroll?
I got a better idea. Use their pets for shark chum. Use a weapon in a crime of violence one time, and never again is any other one time a possiblity.
I suspect that we'd never get it passed.
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