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With the recent Tucson shooting, we see the Democrats are yet again trying to curtail our gun freedoms without having much knowledge of firearms in general. Well I would like to share with you a real life example in the U.S., of why ridiculous gun laws don't work. That example is Puerto Rico. The title reads 90 murders in 23 days (Puerto Rico's population is just under 4 million and averages 800-900 murders per year. Some years this past decade have seen the murder count rise to 1000)
A summary of its gun laws is here. NRA-ILA :: (http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/Federal/Read.aspx?id=57 - broken link)
Among those, in order to purchase and/or possess ANY weapon in Puerto Rico, you must have a firearms license. To get that license, you have to do the detailed criminal background check, child abuse history check, the standard stuff. In addition tot he usual, you have to pay a fee of $100 to the Puerto Rico Police while they are processing your application and the fee is non-refundable if they deny you a weapons permit.
To get that permit to purchase and posses firearms (including keeping firearms in your home), you have to be fingerprinted and photographed by the police or other government agency, and you also have to get a sworn testimony by three people and they have to explain how you are not a threat to the community and you are not predisposed to any acts of violence. Upon that, the Superintendent of the National Police (PolicÃa Nacional de Puerto Rico, equivalent of the state police) will take up to 120 days to approve your permit and you are limited to 2 firearms, except those you inherit and you must register all your weapons to the police, and all weapons sales will be logged into the police computer.
Interestingly, D.C. also has similar requirements as Puerto Rico does, including registering your guns, and having to possess a permit to purchase and carry any weapon in D.C. The result?
The homicide rate in D.C. and Puerto Rico are at the very top of the list for the U.S., D.C. being number one and Puerto Rico at number two (murder rates of 24/23, respectively) Putting that into perspective, D.C. and Puerto Rico have a similar murder rate to Baja California, the Mexican state that contains the cities of Mexicali and Tijuana.
There was an op ed piece in the papers this week by Richard Cohen, an out there looney leftist, that actually tried to make the argument that the gun killed those people and not the man. His conclusion, remove the guns and the guns won't kill.
He first wrote that in college one of his professors asked the following question:
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I had a teacher in college who used to ask, Who discovered America? He would offer some choices. They were Amerigo Vespucci, Christopher Columbus or the Nina, the Pinta and the Santa Maria. The answer he wanted was the three ships with which eventually someone would have discovered the New World and without which everyone would have remained in Spain.
He wrote his professor maintained its was the ships. As if ship could steer themselves...
So based upon this reasoning, he concluded that guns kill people, not people, so all guns should be removed from society.
Now if that isn't the most idiotic op ed I have ever read, then I haven't read any.
Six people are dead and 14 wounded in Arizona not just because a man went crazy or just because political rhetoric has gotten too raw, but because they were shot. It's the gun that did it.
Progressives love to blame firearms and not people.
I find it very hard to believe this guy is for real..
Progressives won't let up and continue to pound away at our second amendment right to keep and carry firearms, and as Cohen's op ed piece shows, they will go to ridiculous lengths to push their desperate agenda to disarm law abiding citizens in the US. This logic makes about as much sense as the old line "The Devil made me do it."
THere was an op ed piece in the papers this week by Richard Cohen, a out there looney leftist, that actually tried to make the argument that the gun killed those people and not the man. His conclusion, remove the guns and the guns won't kill.
He first wrote thatin college one of his professors asked the following question:
He wrote his professor maintained its was the ships. As if ship could steer themselves...
So based upon this reasoning, he concluded that guns kill people, not people, so all guns should be removed from society.
Now if that isn't the most idiodic op ed I have ever read, then I haven't read any.
Progressives love to blame firearms and not people.
They won't let up and continue to pound away at our second amendment right to keep and carry firearms, and as Cohen's op ed piece shows, they will go to ridiculous lengths to push their desperate agenda to disarm law abiding citizens in the US. This logic makes about as much sense as the old line "The Devil made me do it."
Liberals do not ascribe personal responsibility to criminal action. Were they to do so they would have to admit that Utopia cannot be legislated and regulated into existence. That in turn would cut the legs off the horse pulling the cart of Socialism.
Then by that logic: knives kill, cars kill, drugs kill.
b-b-b-b-b-b-ut I thought progressives were PRO-drugs?
You'd think that, but the Democrats rely on the pothead vote to win elections in places like California so they are ok with drugs . In England, Labour under Blair and Gordon Brown were trying to legislate knife crimes and treat them the same as gun crimes. They took away most guns from people because of one crazy man in Scotland, now they have a knife epidemic where there used to be guns so in other words, in the end, people are still being killed no matter what things are banned, and it's much harder to defend yourself with a knife than a gun. Liberals aren't known to think critically, then again.
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Originally Posted by lifelongMOgal
Liberals do not ascribe personal responsibility to criminal action. Were they to do so they would have to admit that Utopia cannot be legislated and regulated into existence. That in turn would cut the legs off the horse pulling the cart of Socialism.
Oh of course not. It's always the fault of society, illness, other people, etc. but never the person themselves.
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