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Old 01-25-2011, 01:34 PM
 
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Therefore it wasn't communism, just a dictatorship under a "communist" label.

Which is where communism got its bad rep from.

Again: Communism has never, ever been practiced.

There's been mangled messes of dictatorships that claimed to be under the "communist" label, but that's about as "Communism" as the US is a Monarchy.
Again, you think just because it has ended up in failure EVERYTIME it has been tried, you are going to try and convince yourself that it has actually never been tried. Is it because you actually DO support Communism rule and you are trying to spread propaganda to soften it's image and hopefully it becomes more accepted here? It aint gonna happen!
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Old 01-25-2011, 01:36 PM
 
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Not particuarly.

People are different, and have different ideals.

Therefore, the people advocating for communism now may not be like Stalin was.

And it's foolhardy at the very least to say otherwise.
History doesn't provide any facts to support your assumption.

Again if it's unachievable how do you justify any attempt to achieve it?
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Old 01-25-2011, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Again, you think just because it has ended up in failure EVERYTIME it has been tried, you are going to try and convince yourself that it has actually never been tried. Is it because you actually DO support Communism rule and you are trying to spread propaganda to soften it's image and hopefully it becomes more accepted here? It aint gonna happen!

Go back in my post history.

Point out anywhere that I support communist rule, or I even believe Communism could work.

I think you'll find that you won't be able to.
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Old 01-25-2011, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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History doesn't provide any facts to support your assumption.
Maybe, but I'm willing to give htem the benefit of the doubt, while being realistic in knowing that while it is the ideal form of government, the way humanity is now makes it impossible.
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Old 01-25-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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Why, is it because I know more about the subject than you? What was I wrong about? You have not made any real points to dispute what I said and you have proven you do not understand what we are talking about here. There you go Guessing again, that is why you are doing so badly in this dicussion, stop guessing and you might learn something, but probably not. Still with the implied insults, grow up. Food For Thought (Go Slow If You Must): If someone tried setting up a Democracy, or as you righties say a Republic, but they never actually built a Republic/Democracy is what they built a Republic/Democracy, clue: the answer is NO. Nope, you're still wrong on the USSR, here is another clue: look up what USSR stands for
Casper
Oh boy, I can't believe you actually went there. So because the USSR had the word Socialist in it, they weren't Communist??? And you have the gall to say you know more about this??? LOL Let me give you a hint:

Socialism is the ROOT of Communism. Also what about the Nazi's having the word Socialist in their name too? Are you going to say that they were facist and right-winged? I bet you are. So if the USSR couldn't have been Communists because they used the word Socialist, then the Nazi's were Socialists too and not Facists right? Both left-wing ideologies correct?
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Old 01-25-2011, 01:40 PM
 
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Maybe, but I'm willing to give htem the benefit of the doubt, while being realistic in knowing that while it is the ideal form of government, the way humanity is now makes it impossible.
The ideal form of government? How do you know this if it has never ever been praticed? Moderator cut: Keep to topic, not posters

Last edited by gallowsCalibrator; 01-25-2011 at 02:05 PM.. Reason: Please keep discussion to the topic and not your fellow posters
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Old 01-25-2011, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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The ideal form of government? How do you know this if it has never ever been praticed? Moderator cut: Keep to topic, not posters
A society where everyone is equal and happy and there are no quarrels, is the ideal society.

This society, however, is also impossible, because humans are too greedy for that.

I'm rather socialist and liberal, but I'm not going to pretend that communism will ever work with the way humanity is.

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Old 01-25-2011, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Thanks for playing
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You're very welcome. Thanks for playing also.
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Old 01-25-2011, 01:46 PM
 
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A society where everyone is equal and happy and there are no quarrels, is the ideal society.

This society, however, is also impossible, because humans are too greedy for that.

I'm rather socialist and liberal, but I'm not going to pretend that communism will ever work with the way humanity is.
If it will never work how is it the ideal society? That's the thing with Liberals and Progressives, they try things that look good on paper but will never work in the real world. Why is that? Why do academia nuts always think their theories that never work are the answer to everything?
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Old 01-25-2011, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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If it will never work how is it the ideal society? That's the thing with Liberals and Progressives, they try things that look good on paper but will never work in the real world. Why is that? Why do academia nuts always think their theories that never work are the answer to everything?
Moderator cut: Keep to topic, not posters.

Please.

Point out anywhere that I say I want to try communism.

Communism is a fairy tale form of government. While it's ideal in theory, it can never, ever happen.

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