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Old 01-29-2011, 01:32 PM
 
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Me too, someone is living inside a world of anger and bitterness. I have close friends this program has helped and the fact Bill Wilson and Dr. Bob founded AA is a miracle. With the nonstop attack machine running full bore against God in this country I'm not sure it ever could happen today.
Like I said, this is about promoting other choices to people in order to SAVE lives.

If you think something from 75 years ago with a 5% success rate is all people deserve, well, that is on you. I happen to think they deserve better.

 
Old 01-29-2011, 01:34 PM
 
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Like I said, this is NOT about ME! This is about the 22 million people out there with addictions who are being forced into 12 step programs (ever watch Intervention?) The treatment industry is a billion dollar industry.

People cycle in and out. Clearly, there has to be a better way. I do not believe in treating addiction with a 75 year old "cure" anymore than I would believe in subjecting someone with asthma, diabetes or cancer to a cure from 75 years ago (well, actually, most likely they'd be dead if subjected to something from 1935).
Good luck to you.
 
Old 01-29-2011, 01:40 PM
 
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Good luck to you.
Oh please, enough with the patronizing. Why don't you try addressing my valid points? Furthermore, if you can't say anything other than "good luck" basically in every one of your posts, why bother. This is a discussion around addiction and how to treat it.
 
Old 01-29-2011, 01:44 PM
 
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Oh please, enough with the patronizing. Why don't you try addressing my valid points? Furthermore, if you can't say anything other than "good luck" basically in every one of your posts, why bother. This is a discussion around addiction and how to treat it.
Why don't you make a valid point???
 
Old 01-29-2011, 01:45 PM
 
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Why don't you make a valid point???
Too funny. You are on fire today!
 
Old 01-29-2011, 01:48 PM
 
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Too funny. You are on fire today!
Is he. I wouldn't know, as he is on my ignore list. After the stunt the other day, I've just decided the ignore list is my friend.
 
Old 01-29-2011, 01:50 PM
 
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Is he. I wouldn't know, as he is on my ignore list. After the stunt the other day, I've just decided the ignore list is my friend.
That is nice, we all need a friend.
 
Old 01-29-2011, 01:54 PM
 
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Well, after the giant truck is no longer blocking my driveway, I can finally leave my house today! Ta ta for now!
 
Old 01-29-2011, 01:58 PM
 
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That is nice, we all need a friend.
There you go again!!!
 
Old 01-29-2011, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Aha, if it's so "inclusive," why do so many meetings end with the Lord's prayer? I have far more of a clue that you possibly realize.

And the whole thing was founded, in part, on the Oxford Group, which was a Christian organization.

And please explain that "chapter to the wives" to me as well, while your at at.

And I know all about your link. Been there, done that.

Oh, and in the interest of sharing, here is a link I "don't" think you've seen.

www.morerevealed.com
Have you ever been to a 12 step meeting? Yes or no.

Yes. here. They probably end up with the Lord's Prayer because it's faith based. In India, I bet it's some Hindu god. I don't pray to anything. I think when I die, I become dirt.

The people in those meetings help each other. It's their last hope before they destroy themselves and every thing they loved. You are trying to argue that this is somehow a bad idea. Or that they accomplish this in a manner in which you don't approve of. Ok.

ROFL.
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