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Old 02-06-2011, 03:08 PM
 
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And they don't donate because some big bad cops don't like horse needles in their arm. Some even pass out like the general population
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Old 02-06-2011, 03:12 PM
 
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The median base is $116,000, with OT it winds up being closer to $150,000 as Iamontnow points out with benefits it comes to $200,000. On top of that you have the compensation caps being removed, so you have some of the retiring chiefs making in excess of $800,000 in the year they retire (and thats in addition to a yearly six figure pension). The system is broken.

As far as your PA example, yes many PA's are very well paid as well, but how much do the taxpayers pay for PA's compared to what the taxpayers pay for Cops.

I have no problem with paying cops well, I have no problem with even having generous benefits and retirement plans, but there is a difference between paying well and paying to excess. When you have almost half the cops on the force taking home $150,000 of taxpayer $$$ a year, upwards of $200,000 including benefits, when you have some retiring chiefs walking away with in excess of $800,000 of taxpayer $$$ to retire, not even including a six figure pension also of taxpayer $$$, something is wrong.
When they make over $150000 its because they are working OT. OT is there so you don't have more cops with beni's to pay for and have those cops only when you need em . Other OT is for arrest and court. So people get paid for exta time worked. Is that against your morals. If there was not short roll call you would pay more taxes for more cops. No arrest , then more DWIs and bad guys. You can't have your cake and eat it to. So do me a favor and just stick to the base salary
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Old 02-06-2011, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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When they make over $150000 its because they are working OT. OT is there so you don't have more cops with beni's to pay for and have those cops only when you need em . Other OT is for arrest and court. So people get paid for exta time worked. Is that against your morals. If there was not short roll call you would pay more taxes for more cops. No arrest , then more DWIs and bad guys. You can't have your cake and eat it to. So do me a favor and just stick to the base salary
OT is fine, when its manageable. Some cops were making over $100,000 in OT alone, quite a few others $50,000+. That is quite a bit of excess.
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Old 02-06-2011, 03:57 PM
 
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Why don't u get your stuff straight before you quote. Its 8 hrs for each donation. Don't spin Most don't donate so your not payin much for that
Uhhh, what's that?
You say I didn't get my stuff straight? OK, here goes:

"Cops receive free health care and up to five "blood days"—comp days for every time they donate blood. The total package, including fringe benefits and overtime, averages $202,400 per officer."
High Police Pay Fuels Nassau Squeeze - WSJ.com
Now maybe it means five days max. It's not clear. But it's ridiculously generous either way.

The cops grabbed as much as they could. And why not? The primary blame is on the politicians - they're supposed to represent the interests of the people, not the cop union.

Stop defending the indefensible. Nassau police compensation is disgraceful anyway you look at it.
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Old 02-06-2011, 09:11 PM
 
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OT is fine, when its manageable. Some cops were making over $100,000 in OT alone, quite a few others $50,000+. That is quite a bit of excess.
No its not! They are locking up a DWI almost every night they are at work. So what is your answer. Do not lock up the DWI. Well not only is that against the law for anyone to order that, but it is morally wrong to let the DWI go. The more DWIs that go to jail the more court time. Are you stating that the cop should ignore supbeona's to go to court. Also illegal. In the USA you are rewarded with money for hard work. The cops making all that money are working the hardest in their profession. You just don't like that someone with the title PO makes that much money. Well thats the way it is if you are a DWI enforcement cop
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Old 02-06-2011, 09:18 PM
 
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Uhhh, what's that?
You say I didn't get my stuff straight? OK, here goes:

"Cops receive free health care and up to five "blood days"—comp days for every time they donate blood. The total package, including fringe benefits and overtime, averages $202,400 per officer."
High Police Pay Fuels Nassau Squeeze - WSJ.com
Now maybe it means five days max. It's not clear. But it's ridiculously generous either way.

The cops grabbed as much as they could. And why not? The primary blame is on the politicians - they're supposed to represent the interests of the people, not the cop union.

Stop defending the indefensible. Nassau police compensation is disgraceful anyway you look at it.
Its disgraceful to you because you didn't take the test or didn't want to do that job. You are wrong about 5 days per donation, so its not what ever. State facts or don't state them at all!. Its 8 hours per donation. And every PO on Long Island makes a similiar salary so why are you just naming Nassau. Its not obsene for the cost of living here. I think its proper compensation for the job. I think you are a disgrace for not stating facts and going to sleep jealous every night. get another job if you don't like the one you have!
I think its a disgrace that lawyers make phony claims, car dealers rip off people, contracters rip off home owners, doctors commit malpractice or charge to much out of network, people evade taxes etc Did I get to you yet?
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Old 02-06-2011, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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No its not! They are locking up a DWI almost every night they are at work. So what is your answer. Do not lock up the DWI. Well not only is that against the law for anyone to order that, but it is morally wrong to let the DWI go. The more DWIs that go to jail the more court time. Are you stating that the cop should ignore supbeona's to go to court. Also illegal. In the USA you are rewarded with money for hard work. The cops making all that money are working the hardest in their profession. You just don't like that someone with the title PO makes that much money. Well thats the way it is if you are a DWI enforcement cop


You can lock up the DWI offenders, o to court, etc without having OT to extremes.
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Old 02-06-2011, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Its disgraceful to you because you didn't take the test or didn't want to do that job. You are wrong about 5 days per donation, so its not what ever. State facts or don't state them at all!. Its 8 hours per donation. And every PO on Long Island makes a similiar salary so why are you just naming Nassau. Its not obsene for the cost of living here. I think its proper compensation for the job. I think you are a disgrace for not stating facts and going to sleep jealous every night. get another job if you don't like the one you have!
I think its a disgrace that lawyers make phony claims, car dealers rip off people, contracters rip off home owners, doctors commit malpractice or charge to much out of network, people evade taxes etc Did I get to you yet?
Nassau is getting more of the attention because Nassau is the one with the major budget issues. Also the high pay and compensation started first in Nasau then spread to other areas (the huge contracts started under Purcell and Gullotta) Nassau is also the one that has cops taking home more than $800,000 during their last year on the force.

The COL on LI is very high, no question about that, but cops make significantly more by themselves than the median household income on LI. They make more than double the median full time worker makes.
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Old 02-07-2011, 03:51 AM
 
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You can lock up the DWI offenders, o to court, etc without having OT to extremes.
That just shows you have no clue. If you do it every day you wil, make OT every day and on your day off. There is court and DMV hearing. Don't post if you have no clue
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Old 02-07-2011, 03:55 AM
 
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Nassau is getting more of the attention because Nassau is the one with the major budget issues. Also the high pay and compensation started first in Nasau then spread to other areas (the huge contracts started under Purcell and Gullotta) Nassau is also the one that has cops taking home more than $800,000 during their last year on the force.

The COL on LI is very high, no question about that, but cops make significantly more by themselves than the median household income on LI. They make more than double the median full time worker makes.
That median crap is garbage. You couldn't live in a shed on the North Shore with the median pay. That prob takes into account people that make zip on welfare and don't have to worry bout bills. And the cops are not taking home 800,000 so don't spin. Remember taxes. Then deduct the salary from those that made 800,000 is your down to 600,000. Most of that was sick and vacation not used and would have been OT paid in all the years prior. Probably about 35 yrs for those guys. Well time for you to get up and make the donuts. The cops will be in soon
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