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Old 01-29-2011, 06:54 PM
 
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Yeah, Martin Luther King Jr isn't an icon? Kennedy, Eisenhower, Neil Armstrong?

Please, get over your not so conservative, conservative icon.

The last 5 Presidents we've had in office have been nothing special.
Forget social conservatism, as Reagan made pro-abortion laws as Governor in Ca.

He was a true leader who brought us out of the carter years with pride.

All of the above are icons, but not to the level of Reagan.
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Old 01-29-2011, 06:58 PM
 
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Reagan is an American icon.

Nobody else in the last 75 years is.

I hope you enjoy yourselves bashing the legend.
I loved him when he was in office. I hate what he did to this country. Go figure. Supply side economics did untold damage to this country. The roaring 20's. Well the roaring 80's 90's and part of the 2000's. Reagan started it. We will be paying the bill for it for a very long time to come.
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Old 01-29-2011, 07:14 PM
 
Location: FL
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Did I say that Carter wasn't a bad President?

Never said that.

What I'm saying is that President Reagan was a worse President, whose decade was salvaged by the collapse of the Soviet Union which was really the result of American foreign policy set forth since Eisenhower.

Reagan didn't win the cold war, he carried the ball across the goal line, from the one yard line.

Ronald Reagan caused our insurance rates to increase, medical rates to go up, fueled the military industrial complex that didn't need any more fuel, increased the national debt, and caused wealth to be taken from middle class and increased the wealth of the super rich.

Reagan was a bad President, period.
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Old 01-29-2011, 07:24 PM
 
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Did I say that Carter wasn't a bad President?

Never said that.

What I'm saying is that President Reagan was a worse President, whose decade was salvaged by the collapse of the Soviet Union which was really the result of American foreign policy set forth since Eisenhower.

Reagan didn't win the cold war, he carried the ball across the goal line, from the one yard line.

Ronald Reagan caused our insurance rates to increase, medical rates to go up, fueled the military industrial complex that didn't need any more fuel, increased the national debt, and caused wealth to be taken from middle class and increased the wealth of the super rich.

Reagan was a bad President, period.
Détente and Containment were utter failures. Ask Neville Chamberlain.
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Old 01-29-2011, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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Whenever I watched Reagan on TV, I thought to myself "This guy absolutely has Alzeheimer's." Of course, since the President merely is a figurehead that goes on TV to justify the decisions of the REAL powers-that-be, much of what Reagan did wasn't bad. He had the right idea of smaller and less expensive government, but of course continued ridiculous military spending and grew gov't in both size and cost just like they all do now. I guess he was the first "Republicrat" President; the time when the two parties became nothing but media constructs that made us think we had a choice in our government.
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Old 01-29-2011, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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I have been talking about how much damage RR has done to America. I have felt like a lone voice.
BOY!!! Do I know this feeling!! I knew Ronald Reagan was a skunk when he fired the flight controllers that were on a legal strike! It only got worse from there.
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Old 01-29-2011, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Legal strike? Rewriting history?

Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization (1968) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"On August 3, 1981 the union declared a strike, seeking better working conditions, better pay and a 32-hour workweek. In doing so, the union violated a law {5 U.S.C. (Supp. III 1956) 118p.} that banned strikes by government unions. Ronald Reagan declared the PATCO strike a "peril to national safety" and ordered them back to work under the terms of the Taft-Hartley Act of 1947."
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Old 01-29-2011, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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BOY!!! Do I know this feeling!! I knew Ronald Reagan was a skunk when he fired the flight controllers that were on a legal strike! It only got worse from there.
It wasn't a legal strike. Those flight controllers signed contracts in which it was stated they do not have the authority to go on strike.

They did and were fired. Big deal!
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Old 01-29-2011, 09:11 PM
 
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I loved him when he was in office. I hate what he did to this country. Go figure. Supply side economics did untold damage to this country. The roaring 20's. Well the roaring 80's 90's and part of the 2000's. Reagan started it. We will be paying the bill for it for a very long time to come.
So, almost 3 decades of never before seen wealth and prosperity isn't enough?

We need bubbles.

They make things interesting.
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Old 01-29-2011, 09:23 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Did I say that Carter wasn't a bad President?

Never said that.

What I'm saying is that President Reagan was a worse President, whose decade was salvaged by the collapse of the Soviet Union which was really the result of American foreign policy set forth since Eisenhower.

Reagan didn't win the cold war, he carried the ball across the goal line, from the one yard line.

Ronald Reagan caused our insurance rates to increase, medical rates to go up, fueled the military industrial complex that didn't need any more fuel, increased the national debt, and caused wealth to be taken from middle class and increased the wealth of the super rich.

Reagan was a bad President, period.
This as many other comments are mostly based on political inclinations. In just about any presidential ratings Ronald Reagan does rank at the top 5 of al presidents. It is also interesting recently more and more presidents are compared to Reagan. It is something like sodas compare themselves as better than Coke. It seems the standard is used to compare and basically say "Our product is better than Coke" Why? Because people do not buy much Coke? So why is comparing with Reagan? If he was such bad president why then compare others to him? Take care.
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