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Old 02-01-2011, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Obama’s proclamation that he had “broken the back of the recession” will inspire howls of disbelief and ridicule throughout the nation. With 9 percent-plus unemployment, how can a president say these words with a straight face?

OBAMA SPEECH SHOWS HE’S OUT OF TOUCH at DickMorris.com
Anything he says inspires howls of ridicule from the conservatives, because that is nature of conservatives politicians. When Obama took office we were losing 700 000 jobs every month, and now we are gaining 130 000, so that is a difference of PLUS 830 000 jobs PER MONTH.

I'd say that is a big improvement, but the conservatives will ALWAYS be insipred to ridicule anything and everything.

I voted "R" in November, but it will probably be the last time I pull for them. I am serious. They have already broken their promises and now even the unempoyment issues have already taken a back seat while they bicker over health care which only 8% of Americans consider top priority.

Disappointed...very disappointed...
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:30 PM
 
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Anything he says inspires howls of ridicule from the conservatives, because that is nature of conservatives politicians. When Obama took office we were losing 700 000 jobs every month, and now we are gaining 130 000, so that is a difference of PLUS 830 000 jobs PER MONTH.

I'd say that is a big improvement, but the conservatives will ALWAYS be insipred to ridicule anything and everything.

I voted "R" in November, but it will probably be the last time I pull for them. I am serious. They have already broken their promises and now even the unempoyment issues have already taken a back seat while they bicker over health care which only 8% of Americans consider top priority.

Disappointed...very disappointed...
That's just it--we need to move forward. The conservatives don't want us to because, heaven forbid, the Obama administration would get the credit for it. Most people don't care who does what, as long as it gets done. I think the R's are being very short sighted if they think they can piddle and stall things and still win next election cycle.
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Anything he says inspires howls of ridicule from the conservatives, because that is nature of conservatives politicians. When Obama took office we were losing 700 000 jobs every month, and now we are gaining 130 000, so that is a difference of PLUS 830 000 jobs PER MONTH.

I'd say that is a big improvement, but the conservatives will ALWAYS be insipred to ridicule anything and everything.

I voted "R" in November, but it will probably be the last time I pull for them. I am serious. They have already broken their promises and now even the unempoyment issues have already taken a back seat while they bicker over health care which only 8% of Americans consider top priority.

Disappointed...very disappointed...
The economy has kicked into overdrive and we're winning the future - why on earth would you be worried about about pesky details like unemployment???
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Old 02-01-2011, 01:02 PM
 
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Can you name a president who won a second term with unemployment over 7.4%?
Can you name a president who presided over the nation after so many jobs left for other countries before their term started?
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Old 02-01-2011, 02:26 PM
 
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Obama’s proclamation that he had “broken the back of the recession” will inspire howls of disbelief and ridicule throughout the nation. With 9 percent-plus unemployment, how can a president say these words with a straight face?

OBAMA SPEECH SHOWS HE’S OUT OF TOUCH at DickMorris.com

The economy alone will dictate whether Obama is re-elected or not. If the economy improves, in spite of Obama, he will probably be re-elected. The republican congress, ironically, may save him by making him appear competent. Had the democratic congress stayed in power, he would not have stood a chance of re-election. Now if the republican congress is able to stop his wild spending, repeal Obamacare, and halt his socialist agenda, the public may attribute these moves as a "change of heart" by Obama and elect him again. Of course, if he is granted another democratic congress, he will be back with the same crazy agenda. A leopard does not change his spots.
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Old 02-01-2011, 02:44 PM
 
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The economy alone will dictate whether Obama is re-elected or not. If the economy improves, in spite of Obama, he will probably be re-elected. The republican congress, ironically, may save him by making him appear competent. Had the democratic congress stayed in power, he would not have stood a chance of re-election. Now if the republican congress is able to stop his wild spending, repeal Obamacare, and halt his socialist agenda, the public may attribute these moves as a "change of heart" by Obama and elect him again. Of course, if he is granted another democratic congress, he will be back with the same crazy agenda. A leopard does not change his spots.
So if the R's are so hot to get the economy swinging, why are they wasting time on a Health care vote they knew wasn't going to go anywhere, and abortion? I think you're misreading this big time. The R's put out some pretty big promises to their base that they're going to have a tough time fulfilling, and if they do keep their word, some of it is so extreme that it's going to tick off swing voters. Even the R's can't agree among themselves on what needs to be cut, how much, and how to do it.

As far as government spending goes--remember--the last stimulus bill was a combination of TAX CUTS and PORK, combined with extending unemployment benefits. Unemployment benefits do help keep the economy stable by keeping people from swamping other public assistance and losing everything before they can get on their feet again and take care of themselves. The D's gave the R's the tax cuts as a trade off--do you think reducing estate taxes is going to get the economy rolling? The other piece the R's wanted was more PORK to big business--again, not a job creator.

Don't think people aren't watching...getting cocky is about the worst thing the R's could do right now.
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Old 02-03-2011, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Can you name a president who presided over the nation after so many jobs left for other countries before their term started?

Reagan inherited a 7.5% unemployment rate from Carter.

Not quite the 7.7% BO came into, but very close.

Can you name a president besides Reagan who inherited double-digit inflation, 21% prime interest rates and the weakest US dollar in US history to that point?

Can you name a president besides Reagan who took the dollar from its record low under Carter to its record high (July 1984) in just three years while reducing inflation to 2.46% in two (July 1983)?

Can you name a president besides Obama who oversaw five trillion in new debt in just three years?

Can you name another president besides Obama who spent a trillion borrowed dollars on a jobs program only to see the unemployment rate increase?

It's back up to 9.8% as of today.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/145922/ga...y-january.aspx
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Old 02-03-2011, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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As long as he remains addicted to green jobs, high-speed rail, and silly little Obamamobiles like the Chevy Volt, as well as other preposterous items that will not lead to a decreased unemployment rate, he's not going to be re-elected, since the independents have bailed on him, and aren't about to come back as long as they see him joined at the hip with job-killing entities such as unions, trial lawyers, and environmentalists.

Independent voters certainly can see that appeasing them is substantially more important thank working for 300,000,00+ American citizens at trying to improve this country, instead of deliberately trying to destroy our economy and our country, which he and his radical cohorts are hell-bent on doing with protectioin from the liberal press unprecedented in our nation's history.

His deliberate destruction of both the middle-class & the seniors of this country, with plenty of assistance provided by his Treasury Secretary and equally radical czars, and with his Wall Street accomplices continuing to rake in truckloads of dough, the independents are gone from his vote column for good.
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Old 02-06-2011, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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The economy alone will dictate whether Obama is re-elected or not. If the economy improves, in spite of Obama, he will probably be re-elected. The republican congress, ironically, may save him by making him appear competent. Had the democratic congress stayed in power, he would not have stood a chance of re-election. Now if the republican congress is able to stop his wild spending, repeal Obamacare, and halt his socialist agenda, the public may attribute these moves as a "change of heart" by Obama and elect him again. Of course, if he is granted another democratic congress, he will be back with the same crazy agenda. A leopard does not change his spots.
halt his socialist agenda... I snort in your general direction... Hawk, name one thing, including Obamacare that is actually new on the American landscape. Can we cut the crap, since it's obvious Obama has passed the 90 day warranty period and we are stuck with him till 2012 at least... America is and has been for quite awhile a first world country with a requisite welfare state, as befits the largest economy in the free world. Clearly America has not gone far enough in equitably distributing the wealth of the largest economy in the free world and as the dead and dying victims of the class war pollute the water supply they will bring down the healthy in much the way that survivors of a disaster are felled by outbreaks of cholera caused by the unburied dead around them.

What the Republicans propose cannot be done and could never be done in a free Democracy. So stuff it! Cease the Tea Party rhetoric. It fools no one. The only crazy one's are the idiots who let the billionaires waltz off with taxes only on the first 250K and then hold fast food workers' feet to the fire for what amounts to pennies to a billionaire. What percent of the class of 2010 found work? 2009? The billionaires won't give them any work because they don't need American labor anymore. They don't need American consumers any more. And they don't. But they still live here and if they don't want to see America burn they way Cairo is burning they will get a clue and do the right thing.

Obama didn't invent any new socialist instruments of liberal decadence. He attempted to put some teeth in existing socialist programs to staunch some of the middle class blood flowing freely in the streets following the complete rout of the remaining savings in the U.S. Treasury by the elites. If that is crazy then so be it. I'm with crazy.

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Old 02-09-2011, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Seriously... are you serious? I imagine you think Obama has done nothing since he was elected but **** you off. It's not all about you though. It really isn't. You're going to find that out just about a year from now...

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Did see any reasons for a second term listed.
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