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Old 02-02-2011, 03:18 PM
 
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It is stunning when you look at the history of the efforts. American exceptionalism, gets in our own way sometimes.
I'm sure any of those countries will be glad to take you....
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Old 02-02-2011, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Much better not to have a "nanny state".
Too late, we already have a nanny state......Pandora's Box was opened a long time ago.
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Old 02-02-2011, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Mid Missouri
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And while all the news coverage today has been on Egypt, the senate was to vote on the full repeal of the bill. Guess we'll have to hear about it later?
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Old 02-02-2011, 03:23 PM
 
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How many States will not procede with the implementation? The idiot Gov of Fla, maybe a few others, but doubt many more will not prepare for the Law as it rolls out.
You know what is great....when you are provided with facts....people get mad....

Thanks bob for showing the true leftist in you....
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Old 02-02-2011, 03:23 PM
 
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Can't pass one law to fix everything. Just have to keep the ball rolling............and pass another law.
If your goal is UHC.
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Old 02-02-2011, 03:27 PM
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Because I don't think the Republicans really want to change healthcare.....they were happy with the way it was before Obama changed it.
Well, I'm a repub (except that I'm registered as a dem - but that's another story) and I think some reforms ARE needed. But I don't like the way obamacare was passed. For example, take the idea of eliminating pre-existing conditions or lifetime caps. Maybe they're great ideas - but they're not free. If you believe they need to be eliminated, don't just tell me the benefit, tell me how much the cost will be too, and tell me who will be paying that cost! Obamacare was passed on the basis of its benefits, while the costs were completely glossed over. I just don't think it's a good idea to ram through massive legislation on a completely partisan basis with no honest effort to arrive at a consensus that has at least considered mainstream views.
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Old 02-02-2011, 03:29 PM
 
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Too late, we already have a nanny state......Pandora's Box was opened a long time ago.

So we need to add to it?
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Old 02-02-2011, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Holy crap! We're on the same page again! Join me on the ridiculous non-taxability of HI! It's INCOME for God's sake!
Not sure what I think about taxing health insurance, haven't given it a lot of thought.

I would have to know how much it would actually cost the average worker with a semi-decent healthcare plan, to start.
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Old 02-02-2011, 03:39 PM
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Too late, we already have a nanny state......Pandora's Box was opened a long time ago.
Sadly, we can never close Pandora's Box. All we conservatives can hope to accomplish is to slow the relentless suffocation of liberalism...
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Old 02-02-2011, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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And while all the news coverage today has been on Egypt, the senate was to vote on the full repeal of the bill. Guess we'll have to hear about it later?
The vote on the full repeal (which will fail) is scheduled later, one of the 1099 changes is being voted on now.
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