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Old 02-02-2011, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Well then, you are simply wrong.


Islamic fundamentalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Read up.
I see in that article plenty of reasons for not choosing to migrate to a state governed by Islamic fundamentalists, but nothing that contradicts my statement.
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Old 02-02-2011, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Again, Beck says these riots are a part of an attempt of MB to create a global capliphate, and that is simply not true, because the riots took MB by a complete surprise. When they started MB tried to figure out how to benefit from them, but they still don't know. That is a fact, and if you didn't know it, then you have not been following the story. Read the news, I am not here to spoon-feed you every bit of information you have failed to catch or comprehend. If someone has to prove something, it is you who needs to prove that MB organized the riots.

I am not asking you to spoon feed me anything. You are making statement that has no basis in fact and I am asking you to support it. If the knowledge is so common it shouldn't be a hardship for you to provide it.

I have not said that MB started the riots only that they have taken full advantage and are using it to take over the government. Not a contoversial position.
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Old 02-02-2011, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Military aid has already been cut off.
Source?

Top House appropriator: U.S. aid to Egypt not stopping any time soon | The Cable
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Old 02-02-2011, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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I see in that article plenty of reasons for not choosing to migrate to a state governed by Islamic fundamentalists, but nothing that contradicts my statement.

Oh well let me help you out.

"According to academic John Esposito, one of the most defining features of Islamic fundamentalism is belief in the "reopening" of the gates of ijtihad.[5] Graham Fuller describes Islamic fundamentalism not as distinct from Islamism but as a subset, "the most conservative element among Islamists." Its "strictest form" includes "Wahhabism, sometimes also referred to as salafiyya. ... For fundamentalists the law is the most essential component of Islam, leading to an overwhelming emphasis upon jurisprudence, usually narrowly conceived."[6] Another American observer, Robert Pelletreau, Jr., assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern affairs, believes it the other way around, Islamism being the subset of Muslims "with political goals ... within" the "broader fundamentalist revival".[7] Still another, Martin Kramer, sees little difference between the two terms: "To all intents and purposes, Islamic fundamentalism and Islamism have become synonyms in contemporary American usage."[8]"
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Old 02-02-2011, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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I jumped the gun. It certainly was threatened by the WH.

White House: Egypt's Behavior May Affect Aid - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

"White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Friday that Egypt's handling of the antigovernment protests that have swept the country "may affect" United States aid to Egypt."
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Old 02-02-2011, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Florida
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So much for that claim.
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Old 02-02-2011, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Still no solutions, hmmmmmm, I thought not.
Casper
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Old 02-02-2011, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I have not said that MB started the riots only that they have taken full advantage and are using it to take over the government. Not a contoversial position.
Obviously everyone interested in taking control will try to take advantage. The riots took them by surprise and now they are trying to adjust. But that is not what we are talking about, is it? We are talking about Beck's reporting. Beck's reporting about the riots being a part of a global caliphate is steaming heap of 'kaka de cabballo'. Pure and simple.
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Old 02-02-2011, 09:13 AM
 
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Glen Beck needs to sit down.
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Old 02-02-2011, 09:13 AM
 
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So if "communist marxists" support freedom and democracy, does that mean he's against freedom and democracy?
Neither the Muslim Brotherhood nor the Marxists are for freedom. They are totally against freedom and want to completely control your lives. Don't you get that?
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