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What, I can't call academics academics? I didn't mean to disparage them, sorry if it sounded that way.
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Not much of a guess, 9/11, Fort Hood, Time Square. They are coming after us. We can bury our heads in the sand or we can look after our own interests.
Herbert Hoover wisely noted, after Pearl Harbor, that people who go around sticking pins in rattlesnakes shouldn't be surprised when they are bit. You may notice there weren't any 9/11s or Fort Hoods before 1948.
I'm sure if the MB thought ahead of time that the protests would be as successful has they have turned out to be they would have joined the effort earlier. The fact is that the MB were late supporters to this particular protests. Even Beck has admitted that there are many reasons that Egyptians would be willing to protest against the current Egyptian government, no dupes are required.
I disagree, the MB is trying to put a benign face on their organization. They knew they didn't have to be out front as they are the strongest of all oppositiion groups. If they were out front it would be difficult for the dupes to deny their intentions.
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But Beck's conflating the protests MB's desire to create a Caliphate is simply fear mongering.
Of course the MB is using the unrest to advance their power and by extension their agenda, there is no question about it.
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Is it really that surprising that the various opposition groups are willing to work together. After all the MB (among other things) holds seats in the current Parliament and in 2005 they won 20% of the seats.
The Brotherhood, which for decades focused on building networks of social services and religious instruction, made political participation a focal point of its strategy in 2005, and startled many by winning 20 percent of the seats in Parliament.
I find it completely unsurprising, they all have the same proximate goal, get rid of Mubarak. Once he is gone the MB will consolidate its power behind a puppet like El Baradei.
Herbert Hoover wisely noted, after Pearl Harbor, that people who go around sticking pins in rattlesnakes shouldn't be surprised when they are bit. You may notice there weren't any 9/11s or Fort Hoods before 1948.
LOL, I am happy you have finally outted yourself, as I suspected all along, you believe Israel is the cause of all the problems. It ain't. The desire for a caliphate predates them by about 1000 years.
I would say the globe getting smaller is a much greater reason for their reach here.
Of course the MB is using the unrest to advance their power and by extension their agenda, there is no question about it.
That's what political groups do. Playing into their hands by treating the good-guy dissidents like spoiled kids who need to be spanked is not a good strategy.
That's what political groups do. Playing into their hands by treating the good-guy dissidents like spoiled kids who need to be spanked is not a good strategy.
Who is doing that? I think the west has been supportive of hte dissidents. The west is wary, rightfully so, of the MB.
LOL, I am happy you have finally outted yourself, as I suspected all along, you believe Israel is the cause of all the problems. It ain't. The desire for a caliphate predates them by about 1000 years.
Outed? I didn't know I was ever in.
Israel is not "the cause of all the problems." America's masochistic devotion to it is, however, absolutely the cause of most of our foreign policy problems.
BTW 1000 years before Israel was established, there were two caliphates, the Abbasids and the Fatimids. The Ottoman Empire was technically a caliphate and existed until 1924. They didn't send suicide bombers to New York.
You, of course have provided zero links demonstrating the MB does't want a global caliphate as opposed to their own words I have provided for you. You seem to think a because they decided not to be in the forefront means they were taken by surprise. Make no mistake, ElBaradei is making a coalition with them because they are far stronger than him.
Yes, I did provide a link, which you obviously ignored, and other people have provided info too saying MB joined in after the riots had been going on for days.
One last time: what the MB wants, has nothing to do with what actually happened and with the fact that Beck is feeding lies about the riots BEING ABOUT MB global caliphate.
No further comment. I do not like the bickering approach you have taken here. Glenn Beck should send you a tip, $5.00 maybe, for pushing his theories.
Who is doing that? I think the west has been supportive of hte dissidents. The west is wary, rightfully so, of the MB.
Most people in the West have been supportive, but a vocal minority has been harping on the participation of the MB to the exclusion of everything else.
Yes, I did provide a link, which you obviously ignored, and other people have provided info too saying MB joined in after the riots had been going on for days.
That doesn't mean they were caught off guard, it means they joined days later.
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One last time: what the MB wants, has nothing to do with what actually happened and with the fact that Beck is feeding lies about the riots BEING ABOUT MB global caliphate.
I am not sure how you can say that. Of course the MB joining in a coalition with El Baradei has quite a bit to do with what is going on. Do you dispute the MB wants a caliphate?
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No further comment. I do not like the bickering approach you have taken here. Glenn Beck should send you a tip, $5.00 maybe, for pushing his theories.
I completely understand your desire to disengage since you have been unabable to validate a syllable you have written.
Still no solutions. Par for the course, Oh well.
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