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Almost everyone will need healthcare or hospitalization before they die, very few will ever need a gun to survive.
That doesn't matter one bit. The issue is forcing you to buy somethng. If they can force you to buy HC, then they can force you to buy anything they want. Why not a gun?
That's the attitude that resulted in people in New Orleans paralyzed by a rain storm called Katrina. Unable to fend for themselves they waited around for government to rescue them. Think of a gun like insurance. You may not need it now because you are healthy but accidents happen. Similarly you may never need a gun to propect your home or your neighbor's but bad things happen to good people. And smart people recognize that and act to prepare themselves if the eventuality occurs. Learning to use a gun and to be proficient in its use is not rocket science. To refuse to learn, however, is irresponsible.
I don't know anything about guns, but my gut tells me you are being trivial about using a gun on another person.
A gun takes talent and practice to use it in a situation in which you think you have an intruder. Do you go up and make your presence known before you shoot only to have an intruder turn and fire his weapon on you? Or do you fire your weapon first and then find out later it was only your son getting a midnight snack?
That takes more training, I imagine, than is provided by a local gun safety course.
That doesn't matter one bit. The issue is forcing you to buy somethng. If they can force you to buy HC, then they can force you to buy anything they want. Why not a gun?
That doesn't matter one bit. The issue is forcing you to buy somethng. If they can force you to buy HC, then they can force you to buy anything they want. Why not a gun?
Yes. Freedom. It is what makes us unique as a country should not be taken for granted. I'll keep it light. Anyone remember Devo, the eighties pop band? Much of their shtick was modern man as an unwitting doofus as in devolution. One of their songs said something to the effect of..."Freedom ofchoice is what we got. Freedom from choice is what we need." I don't think they were advocating total government control as much as they were saying we needed to be saved from our own dumb *ss selves. Certainly food for thought in these types of conversations.
That doesn't matter one bit. The issue is forcing you to buy somethng. If they can force you to buy HC, then they can force you to buy anything they want. Why not a gun?
Anyone remember Fahrenheit 451 or 1984? Cautionary tales about what might become in terms of government control. Certainly, we are seeing some of it come to fruition. At the risk of being branded a total liberal, I say we employ a little Timothy Leary and Think For Yourself And Question Authority. Just like most things, the answer lies between extremes. On one end we have blind obedience and on the other, anarchy. What about a reasonable place in the middle?
Anyone remember Fahrenheit 451 or 1984? Cautionary tales about what might become in terms of government control. Certainly, we are seeing some of it come to fruition. At the risk of being branded a total liberal, I say we employ a little Timothy Leary and Think For Yourself And Question Authority. Just like most things, the answer lies between extremes. On one end we have blind obedience and on the other, anarchy. What about a reasonable place in the middle?
Mr Floyd, how do you feel about the insurance mandate?
Well said and I actually agree with much of what you said. My problem with AC if when reading her opinions she will start out talking about a subject in a rational manner using evidence and making her points on the issue, but then almost every time she will begin to ramble and even shift off her own topic and ramble on about other issues. It is like she does not know when to just make the point and end it, it is how some here will go off and a tangent and start rambling on about various other issues they have on totally unrelated topics.
Casper
That's OK. When the rambling starts, just watch something else or go do something else. Right? The rambling, in itself, doesn't necessarily discredit otherwise credible thoughts, does it?
Mr Floyd, how do you feel about the insurance mandate?
Philosophically, I can buy some of the rationale behind the proponents of nationalized medicine. But I have a great deal of concern from a pragmatic point of view. I have spent many years as a senior financial auditor / analyst for the CA Department of Healthcare Services (think welfare / Medi-Cal). I have seen abuse of the system and many things that seem like they are wasteful. That being said, I am leery of a system with a scale even broader than the California one. I am equally leery of it coming from a federal level. Efficiency and effectiveness are always issues and IMO, a federal program will likely lack both.
All would be solved with single payer. Nobody would be "forced to buy" a product or thing, it would just be there, like fire departments, police, road maintenance, and schools. Everyone needs to see how silly her analogy is.
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