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Old 02-04-2011, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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This insane "law" was presented on a radio show today (no, not Limbaugh/Beck/etc, think small scale audience). Who would actually follow such a "law", considering that the money you have earned is now yours and no longer the government's?
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Old 02-04-2011, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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This insane "law" was presented on a radio show today (no, not Limbaugh/Beck/etc, think small scale audience). Who would actually follow such a "law", considering that the money you have earned is now yours and no longer the government's?
Now where is jetgraphics when you need him ???

That money is not money..it's an I.O.U.

The coins themselves have barter value.
Once melted the metal has real value if you understand that.
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Old 02-04-2011, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Now where is jetgraphics when you need him ???

That money is not money..it's an I.O.U.
Even coins? It doesn't say "federal reserve note" on the coin. How is the money you earn not your property? Who would dream up a demented system like that?
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Old 02-04-2011, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Even coins? It doesn't say "federal reserve note" on the coin.
I added to my post.

The melted metal has more value than the coin itself.
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Old 02-04-2011, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I added to my post.

The melted metal has more value than the coin itself.
That still doesn't address my question. Since it's your property, how is this "law" enforceable?
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Old 02-04-2011, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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That still doesn't address my question. Since it's your property, how is this "law" enforceable?
It's not really. Who is going to know what you did ?
Until the DHS can watch our every move 24/7 you can melt away.

Used to be pennies/nickels that garnered some money for the melted metals. The metal was worth more than the face value of the coin.
Government big shots just got worried that it would lead to shortages of coins in circulation.
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Old 02-04-2011, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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I'm not an expert on the subject but this how I understand it, someone please correct me if I am wrong.

You earn a 'value', not currency. Currency is a government property that secures the value of your earnings and assets. It is yours to spend or store as you like, but its material existence in the form of bills or coins is essentially government property.

That is to say the government could theoretically 'take your currency away' as long as they continue to secure your assets. For example, the government could 'take away' your dollar bills by issuing another currency of equal value, say a One-dollar coin, to which you would have a right in exchange for the now worthless dollar bills in your possession.
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Old 02-04-2011, 12:26 PM
 
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pre-1983 pennies are now worth more than 3 cents in copper value. nickels are worth about 7 cents.
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Old 02-04-2011, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I'm not an expert on the subject but this how I understand it, someone please correct me if I am wrong.

You earn a 'value', not currency. Currency is a government property that secures the value of your earnings and assets. It is yours to spend or store as you like, but its material existence in the form of bills or coins is essentially government property.

That is to say the government could theoretically 'take your currency away' as long as they continue to secure your assets. For example, the government could 'take away' your dollar bills by issuing another currency of equal value, say a One-dollar coin, to which you would have a right in exchange for the now worthless dollar bills in your possession.
I dunno...that sounds like lawyer speak to me. I work/produce, I earn something in exchange. Whether it is wampum, gold, or coins, it is irrelevant. The government cannot have it both ways.
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Old 02-04-2011, 12:39 PM
 
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I dunno...that sounds like lawyer speak to me. I work/produce, I earn something in exchange. Whether it is wampum, gold, or coins, it is irrelevant. The government cannot have it both ways.
Should be this.
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