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Old 02-05-2011, 11:45 AM
 
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Currently state license requirements generally include a 4 year undergraduate degree, 4 years of med school and then a 3 to 5 year low paid residency. This results in a very small amount of licensed doctors which leads to high rates for services in a supply and demand economy.

However, many functions that require a license do not require 11 years of training. Writing a prescription for a cold, for example, or fixing a broken arm require technical training but not over a decade worth and an undergraduate degree in an unrelated discipline. Currently, paramedics who receive training at 2 year community college programs do the bulk of highly technical first response medical treatments. Nurses often do their doctors' jobs for them. In the current system, it can cost $700 to have a wart removed.

States refuse to license new medical schools despite overwhelming demand by students who want to become doctors. A student has to score in the top 5% of the MCAT to get accepted to med school, despite that many of them will be going into work far less intellectually demanding then brain surgery. This is creating an artificial shortage which has sent medical costs skyrocketing.

Private organizations in the US do license members and create standards for those members. It seems like it is state governments who are throwing up arbitrary roadblocks to affordable health care.

What do people think about removing licensing requirements and allowing private sector medical organizations to fill the gap? In my view, it would increase supply of doctors, lower costs, and private organizations would emerge to help consumers pick out qualified doctors.
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Old 02-05-2011, 11:49 AM
 
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Horrible idea. In fact, there are people who can "wite an Rx for a cold" who are not necessarily doctors.

You, in effect, are asking that we take the Dumbing Down of America to the next level
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Old 02-05-2011, 11:53 AM
 
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What do people think about removing licensing requirements and allowing private sector medical organizations to fill the gap? In my view, it would increase supply of doctors, lower costs, and private organizations would emerge to help consumers pick out qualified doctors.
I'm against all government licensing. It's just another corporatist roadblock against competition.


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You, in effect, are asking that we take the Dumbing Down of America to the next level
Yeah because letting government take care of everything in your life so you don't need to think for yourself isn't the ultimate dumbing down
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Old 02-05-2011, 11:57 AM
 
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Horrible idea. In fact, there are people who can "wite an Rx for a cold" who are not necessarily doctors.

You, in effect, are asking that we take the Dumbing Down of America to the next level
The dumbing down of American is accomplished by blind trust in government license holders. What I am advocating is that consumers must actually make decisions that will empower them to seek out the highest quality care in their price budget. The idea that only a person who has been approved by the state after spending a ridiculous sum of money getting educated in un-related fields is qualified to give you your allergy shot is the true dumbing down of America.
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Old 02-05-2011, 11:58 AM
 
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The dumbing down of American is accomplished by blind trust in government license holders. What I am advocating is that consumers must actually make decisions that will empower them to seek out the highest quality care in their price budget. The idea that only a person who has been approved by the state after spending a ridiculous sum of money getting educated in un-related fields is qualified to give you your allergy shot is the true dumbing down of America.
And if you don't have much money you get a quack
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Old 02-05-2011, 12:01 PM
 
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And if you don't have much money you get a quack
Yep. Just like people with not much money have phones that dial the wrong numbers, tv sets that only broadcast North Korean State television, and cars that can only drive reverse and steer left
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Old 02-05-2011, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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Pure insanity. Ridiculously stupid idea.
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Old 02-05-2011, 12:08 PM
 
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Good idea, just let anyone be a doctor without any licensing requirements or training.

This is actually what Libertarians think.
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Old 02-05-2011, 12:20 PM
 
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Good idea, just let anyone be a doctor without any licensing requirements or training.

This is actually what Libertarians think.
You would still need training and their will still be professional certifications, except the state will not be involved in the certification process and can't use its power to shut people down who want to bring services to low income areas but who might not have the political clout to get a medical school approved in the political environment.

Their were doctors prior to state medical boards. They treated low income people for free and did quite well financially.
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Old 02-05-2011, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Horrible idea. In fact, there are people who can "wite an Rx for a cold" who are not necessarily doctors.

You, in effect, are asking that we take the Dumbing Down of America to the next level
That is what obama care will do
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