Arizona's next assault on the Constitution (illegal, border, free speech, federal government)

[florida.bob]

Now they are trying to rewrite the 14th Amendment. Here's an idea, why don't we just give Arizona back to Mexico?

San Francisco Sentinel » Blog Archives » Arizona legislators consider birthright citizenship bill ‘to correct monumental misapplicatiion of the 14th Amendment’

[SourD]

Originally Posted by florida.bob

Now they are trying to rewrite the 14th Amendment. Here's an idea, why don't we just give Arizona back to Mexico?

Here's an idea for you. Learn your facts and learn about the Constitution, you have no clue what it says.

[florida.bob]

Originally Posted by SourD

Here's an idea for you. Learn your facts and learn about the Constitution, you have no clue what it says.

Educate me. What am I misunderstanding in their actions?

[summers73]

Why have states to begin with? Why not just a large federal government like other European countries? After all, they failed to use centralization when some nitwit invented mainframe computers. Why not repeat the same mistake by modeling our government in the same manner?

[SourD]

Originally Posted by florida.bob

Educate me. What am I misunderstanding in their actions?

Arizona has not done anything unconstitutional. If you think asking for ID is unconstitutional, you have really big issues to go tackle and ask the USSC why they say it is legal to to do DUI stops where the driver did NOTHING wrong and is pulled over and asked for ID and have their names ran through warrant databases. Until you successfully get an answer on that and CHANGE that law, Arizona did nothing wrong. I can't comment on the rest of your OP because you provided nothing.

[hotair2]

Originally Posted by florida.bob

Now they are trying to rewrite the 14th Amendment. Here's an idea, why don't we just give Arizona back to Mexico?

Absolutely not. It is better to keep the crazy people in one place. If we give it back to Mexico, the crazies will just move into other states.

[texdav]

It really seems that its more a case of other people might get the idea that the federal government isnot the only government mjentioned in the constitutionand it actaully limits the power of the federal government.Basci; no link required.

[wellyouknow]

The Constitution articles are often 'interpreted' in various ways (like 1st and 2nd for example that limit our rights to bear arms and free speech in certain circumstances)

If the parents breached the border illegally in the first place it would seem to me the amendment is misapplied. Thus Arizona is correct.

[ovcatto]

Originally Posted by wellyouknow

If the parents breached the border illegally in the first place it would seem to me the amendment is misapplied. Thus Arizona is correct.

As amendments go, the 14th doesn't suffer from the grammatical ambiguity of those written in the 18th century.

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

There isn't much room for "interpretation". There is another problem in that the State of Arizona is well outside of its scope of powers by establishing a statute that supersedes federal law or the Constitution, see Article VI, Clause 2.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.

[Pretzelogik]

Originally Posted by florida.bob

Now they are trying to rewrite the 14th Amendment. Here's an idea, why don't we just give Arizona back to Mexico?

San Francisco Sentinel » Blog Archives » Arizona legislators consider birthright citizenship bill ‘to correct monumental misapplicatiion of the 14th Amendment’

So sorry ol' boy you've got it bass ackwards.