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I would say that you didn't read past my link to Beck today. If you had surely you would have tried Google to see all those things they have about the Red-Green Alliance and find that they were mostly written by people who have nothing to do with Beck and not one of any I read said anything about Beck Now don't cheat yourself in how you ask Google for the title group. I just googled Red-Green Alliance and there it was. Try it and get off the hate Beck bike.
is BECK like your jesus or something? All you ever post is "your gotta read/watch this G. Beck link/video.
is BECK like your jesus or something? All you ever post is "your gotta read/watch this G. Beck link/video.
For some reason it appears that you failed to see the most recent link I finally got on this thread. Did you watch the link to Beck talking? Most like you here refused to do that because he is so wrong about everything, at least for a year or two until his predictions come true.
Hey, do you see me really linking to his show? I have done so too many times and am living under threat of banishment now if I do. Do I think that there would be much for left leaners to learn from him, if they could take a chance? Sure, I do, but I don't think many will take the chance.
May be Becks last fan. Hey, that kind of sounds like a book title, hmmmm...
Bob, how about you going to the Beck place I can't post anymore and checking up on what he was saying last week about the protests in Egypt? I am sure that you weren't checking up on him last week as you often say you do.
I wonder why I thought the topic of this thread had something to do with the Red-Green Alliance. I failed to see Beck's name in the title and was sure that people like you would make an attempt to switch the topic to Beck only.
Bob, how about you going to the Beck place I can't post anymore and checking up on what he was saying last week about the protests in Egypt? I am sure that you weren't checking up on him last week as you often say you do.
I wonder why I thought the topic of this thread had something to do with the Red-Green Alliance. I failed to see Beck's name in the title and was sure that people like you would make an attempt to switch the topic to Beck only.
Excuse me, I thought your link was to the Beckster explaining the scourge of the Muslim uprising.
Yep, here is a link to something that you might not want to see but it is what I read the other day about the recent election in Denmark. It seems that the Red-Green Alliance in Denmark is very much in favor of the 4th International of the Socialist Party and even called far left in this article from the Association. Now I don't know how politics in Denmark work but it seems to me that Beck and I are pretty right about what the Red-Green Association is.
Maybe I should say that I am quite sure that many far left groups in Europe are willing to work with Muslims to shut down their democratic systems. I see nothing in this article about Muslims but I have seen quite a bit, even from some MSM groups, that both far left and Muslims groups were together in the Egyptian protests recently. Just the American group, Code Pink, which was heavily involved there shows me a lot of left and Muslim support for the protests. Code Pink has been pretty heavily involved in that part of the world for over a year.
Okay, I was never in disagreement over what the Red-Green Alliance is. Very far left - anti-capitalist, at its worst. However, in most cases, the worst isn't where it is at.
In Denmark, the parliament (as in many other European countries) is apportioned. As long as a party can get 2% of the overall vote, they get some representation in parliament. I don't know how the apportionment works, but it isn't like here in the US where a candidate would have to defeat all other candidates on the ballot.
Many European countries have Socialist parties and in some countries, a very strong following. Mitterrand was a Socialist, and was able to achieve a Socialist majority in the French parliament back in the early 1980s.
European countries also tend to have a strong Green party.
Now, when you look at how European legislatures work, it is very rare for a single party to have the majority. Therefore, two or more parties will band together to form a coalition and be the "ruling coalition". If a Socialist party and a Green party form the coalition (with or without other parties), then it is called a Red-Green coalition. What binds Socialists with Greens is the lack of trust in capitalism to work for the good of the people/environment.
So, having laid a bit of a foundation, exactly what is the concern? That such a movement might gain a foothold here in the US? That Europe may eventually become more socialistic than capitalistic? Other?
In Denmark, the parliament (as in many other European countries) is apportioned. As long as a party can get 2% of the overall vote, they get some representation in parliament. I don't know how the apportionment works, but it isn't like here in the US where a candidate would have to defeat all other candidates on the ballot.
This is true, and the details of the apportion process can give one a massive headache. That is also the reason for some weird alliances, like the Red-Green - they don't have much in the way of a coherent policy, but on their own, they'd never reach the 2%. It takes a Glenn Beck to jump to the conclusion that the Islamic take-over is imminent.
Interestingly, a Muslim woman ran for Parliament under the Red/Green party banner, which p*ssed off everybody - the strict-interpretation Muslims hated the idea of a woman in a position of power, the socialists hated the idea of a person with firm religious views on their ballot and the conservative parties didn't know whether to argue against the Muslim bit, the socialist bit or both. (She wasn't elected.)
Be that as it may, the far Left in Danish politics is in a perpetual shuffle - they tend to be able to work together just to the point where they get the magic 2%, then immediately splinter when they have to actually formulate policy. Then they'll form alliances with other splinter groups and try again. Great fun to watch, as they're never in government.
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Red-Green coalitions are a reality in Europe where the Green parties are popular enough to poll enough votes to be elected to legistalures and local councils. In Germany the Green Party (Die Gruen) got past the 5% threshold to be allocated seats in the Bundestag and Red -Green govrnments rule several German states. Even in Britain the Greens elected their first MP under Britain's first past the post voting system. If Britain had European style proporational representation the Greens might have won a few dozen seats in Parliment and
had enough for a party allignment and a voice as an official opposition in the House of Commons.
Roy, I think you need to learn that just because something is on the internet, doesn't mean its true. Also, this party is a relatively small movement in Denmark and Denmark alone, where there are many parties represented in the 179 member Folketing.
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