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Old 02-14-2011, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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It is not so easy like you wrote. Many immigrants were political and other came for money. When collected amount of money which they wanted they went back home.
And if it was true they all came and assimilated, how does one explain the "Little Italies" and Chinatowns" that were part of every significant American urban landscape of the first half of the 20th century?
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:58 AM
 
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He failed in Europe, but it's a success in the United States.
Europe was never multicultural! There are different countries and each country has own culture and history. USA is different. Who are "americans"? Where are Native people?
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Old 02-14-2011, 11:19 AM
 
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One after another European Leader has come out and stated that multiculturalism has failed in their countries. These include both moderate and conservative leaders in Germany, France and Germany.

Multiculturalism has failed, says French president - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110210/wl_afp/francepoliticsimmigrationsociety - broken link)

Do you think a major American Political Leader would be so bold as to make this statement about what is happening in America. (A balkanized society, especially outside the workplace)

Should we admit as a nation that multiculturalism has failed as America has become more ethnically and culturally diverse? Or do you believe that multiculturalism is a great success both here and in Europe?
Call it whatever you want, but "multiculturalism" is just an everyday reality where I live (suburban D.C.). It's not even an issue. Has it "failed"? I'm not sure what you mean by that. I don't see it.
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Old 02-14-2011, 11:39 AM
 
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Call it whatever you want, but "multiculturalism" is just an everyday reality where I live (suburban D.C.). It's not even an issue. Has it "failed"? I'm not sure what you mean by that. I don't see it.
Yeah, you know that huge ghetto in SE DC where crime, drugs and violence is rampant and over half of the inhabitants are on welfare? You know, those that haven't "integrated" into "mainstream" culture? Yeah, just ignore all of that.
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Old 02-14-2011, 01:05 PM
 
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Yeah, you know that huge ghetto in SE DC where crime, drugs and violence is rampant and over half of the inhabitants are on welfare? You know, those that haven't "integrated" into "mainstream" culture? Yeah, just ignore all of that.
Nice try. DC itself is probably the least diverse area in the metro. I live in a suburban county with over a million residents and we had 14 murders last year. My neighborhood has people from all over the world, and it's very safe.
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Old 02-14-2011, 01:10 PM
 
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All of this flowery language from a man who presided over a Jim Crow military and a Jim Crow nation.

What BS.
Hey, I'm no fan of Teddy's outside of his recognition of the need for National Parks. However, dispite my disagreement with his pro-Socialist policies, he was spot on in regard to the need for immigrants to fully assimilate and become Americans.
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Old 02-14-2011, 01:11 PM
 
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Nice try. DC itself is probably the least diverse area in the metro. I live in a suburban county with over a million residents and we had 14 murders last year. My neighborhood has people from all over the world, and it's very safe.
I don't know where you live, but where I live in NOVA, there is no integration. Yes, all ethicities shop at the same Safeway, but they live in pockets of Latino, Korean/Asian and white, respectively.

If you mean "integration" in the sense that we can all shop at supermarket without killing one another, then yes, we've integrated. But seeing is how parts of VA are self-segregated with respect to where one lives and who one associates with, I would hardly call that integration.
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Old 02-14-2011, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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Erm, the U.S.A. invaded Puerto Rico during Spanish-American war. Puerto Rico was still a Spanish possession at that time.
Your point? I said the country was taken over by the US. Whether Spain or the US was the colonial master, the point was and is that Puerto Rico never had a chance to be independent. Do you dispute this?
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Old 02-14-2011, 01:37 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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I don't care how many ethnicities or religions are in a nation, the culture has to be cohesive.
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Old 02-14-2011, 01:37 PM
 
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Hey, I'm no fan of Teddy's outside of his recognition of the need for National Parks. However, dispite my disagreement with his pro-Socialist policies, he was spot on in regard to the need for immigrants to fully assimilate and become Americans.
Ok, but the pattern in the USA has been for it to welcome immigrants from other countries and allow, even encourage, them to climb and improve themselves at the expense of African Americans. We used to joke that immigrants knew when they had taken the first step toward being real Americans when they learned to say the N-word the right way......
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