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Old 02-12-2011, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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I think one has to do both. It was obvious to many who Obama really was and what his agenda was before he was elected. Some were swept up byt the rhetoric and ignored his record (when he actually did vote) and his radical affiliations.

Hermain Cain is charismatic, that is a plus he has over Trump. Neither have a legislative record. I don't know if Cain has military service in his background, will have to research that one.
I have heard both Cain and Keyes speak, and while they are both intelligent and very articulate in getting their message across, it is just empty rhetoric if there is no legislative or judicial record. I automatically assume that anyone who seeks public office is going to lie through their teeth, so why should I bother listening?

The fact that for the two years Obama was a US Senator he voted "Present" the majority of the time was also very telling.

Cain has no military experience, which is a disappointment but does not automatically disqualify him as a potential candidate for whom I could vote. I think that a President that has military experience is more likely to treat and use the military as they should be treated and used, than a President who has no military experience.
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Old 02-12-2011, 12:46 PM
 
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I have heard both Cain and Keyes speak, and while they are both intelligent and very articulate in getting their message across, it is just empty rhetoric if there is no legislative or judicial record. I automatically assume that anyone who seeks public office is going to lie through their teeth, so why should I bother listening?

The fact that for the two years Obama was a US Senator he voted "Present" the majority of the time was also very telling.

Cain has no military experience, which is a disappointment but does not automatically disqualify him as a potential candidate for whom I could vote. I think that a President that has military experience is more likely to treat and use the military as they should be treated and used, than a President who has no military experience.
It really depends on where the legislative bodies are ideologically whether it turns out to be empty rhetoric or not. Obama was able to shove through his radical Marxist measures because Reid and Pelosi were there to serve as his ram rods.

If the Conservative House is able to defund the regulatory structure that Obama is using to make Congress irrelevant I see a real chance for a Conservative POTUS making true on campaign rhetoric. However, without control of the House less is possible.

I will say I believe a split Congress does less damage to the country than one party controlling both Congress and the Oval Office. It is too bad that the blue dogs were sacrificed in November 2010 more than the radical left.

Simply stated, Obama cannot be allowed another 4 years to make SCOTUS appointments or this country will never recover its Constitution.
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Old 02-12-2011, 12:52 PM
 
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If Cain is as pro-Constitution as Paul I'd say he has half a chance. Our tax code is a disaster and it really is past time to throw it out and start over. In this he is absolutely spot on target.

Every time the GOP puts forward a "centrist" candidate, it fails. The time for a true Conservative candidate is at hand. I can see why that bothers liberal posters on this forum as much as the aspect of the re-election of our pan-Leninist POTUS bothers Conservatives.
No one is concerned about Herman Cain. He has an astronomically small chance of winning the nomination, as his only constituency consists of individuals who truly believe Obama resembles a pan-Leninist.
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Old 02-12-2011, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I agree. I never listen to what candidates have to say, only their record matters to me. When they do not have a legislative or judicial record to analyze, then it makes the task of finding out more about them more difficult.
Fortunately, Cain has been very successful at business, which is what this country needs. Lawyers have screwed it up royally.

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lol. Neither Herman Cain nor Trump will win the GOP nomination, but it's pretty funny watching people who think it has a chance of happening.
Oh, I don't think either can or will win, but the they will be INVALUABLE for pushing the narrative and setting the agenda.
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Old 02-12-2011, 01:19 PM
 
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No one is concerned about Herman Cain. He has an astronomically small chance of winning the nomination, as his only constituency consists of individuals who truly believe Obama resembles a pan-Leninist.
What that Cain said in his speech did you find untrue? Care to debate substance?
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Old 02-12-2011, 01:21 PM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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Good to hear you're not all coming over here, we're crowded enough as it is.
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Old 02-12-2011, 01:21 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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This is all funny to me, because i have many educated really good black friends, and they would never think ever of voting Democratic at all. They will get into great detail, have a couple of hours, why! Actually even if you agree with them, after a couple of hours you just start agreeing lol just to shut them up. No really i love them.

I have many black friends who at one time, felt they had to vote with the Dems, they said it is a condition thing, then they grew up and had their own mind, makes sense to me.
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Old 02-12-2011, 01:22 PM
 
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This is all funny to me, because i have many educated really good black friends, and they would never think ever of voting Democratic at all. They will get into great detail, have a couple of hours, why! Actually even if you agree with them, after a couple of hours you just start agreeing lol just to shut them up. No really i love them.

I have many black friends who at one time, felt they had to vote with the Dems, they said it is a condition thing, then they grew up and had their own mind, makes sense to me.
lol. all black people who vote democratic have no minds, based on my anecdotal black republican friends. got it.
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Old 02-12-2011, 01:25 PM
 
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Good to hear you're not all coming over here, we're crowded enough as it is.
Would you at least take our Socialists who so want to emulate your nationalized health system?
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Old 02-12-2011, 01:33 PM
 
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No, I stand by what I said. Black people are conditioned to believe that Republicans and blacks are incompatible.
That's such a typical Puerto Rican thing to say.
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