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Once again, complete BS, and for the record, I'm not left, but I'm a pragmatist and I actually use some common sense. Explain just HOW we should support the protesters in Iran? Publicly calling for fair and free elections accomplishes exactly WHAT if we're not going to be able to mediate the situation like we did in Egypt, or physically help them take over their government? Add to that the fact that a chunk of people in that country LIKE the regime--the population is split--so we'd be encouraging a faction to revolt and start a civil war without being willing to back them up with force. Do you people ever think things through? That type of thing is cowboy politics at it's worst--make the macho stand without thinking through the consequences.
Again--we had leverage in Egypt that we don't have in Iran, and there was only a handful of loyal pro-Mubarak forces--the Egyptians weren't divided on getting him out of there. What does it take to get some of you to understand that?
What makes you think I was addressing you? Yes calling for fair and free elections would be a splendid place to start.
In case you haven't notice the folks in the street in Egypt were not very happy with our lack of support for their movement. Yous somehow think we had something to do with Mubarak stepping down, you are mistaken. He stepped down inspite of us. We sat on the fence until it was clear the people had forced him out.
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I think we can just feel the anger coming from the left. I tell you, I just don't get it. Why does the left think anyone is advocating violence? Why does the left think the only form of support we can offer is weapons and bombers. Even though all of us who favor showing support for the protesters have repeatedly said we are not talking about military support. I am sure they (the lefties) know this but only by purposely misrepresenting statements can they attempt to make some argument for allowing the protesters twist in the wind. As I said, curious times for the left, indeed.
You should feel it, the anger is directed at the fear-mongerers who are too damn stupid to learn from the results of our past meddling and wish to continue spawning debacle after debacle. If you're so damn worried about Iran walk the walk and go there and fight for what you allege you're soooooooooooooooo concerned about.
You should feel it, the anger is directed at the fear-mongerers who are too damn stupid to learn from the results of our past meddling and wish to continue spawning debacle after debacle. If you're so damn worried about Iran walk the walk and go there and fight for what you allege you're soooooooooooooooo concerned about.
It's always meddling when it isn't the left's idea. I got it. What exactly was the US doing in Egypt for the past year? MEDDLING!
You should feel it, the anger is directed at the fear-mongerers who are too damn stupid to learn from the results of our past meddling and wish to continue spawning debacle after debacle. If you're so damn worried about Iran walk the walk and go there and fight for what you allege you're soooooooooooooooo concerned about.
LOL, another misdirection. You clearly can't point to anything I wrote that indicated fear. Quite the opposite, I called on using our moral force to call for free and fair elections. It is the left who is in the fetal position, comparing using words to military force.
I think we can just feel the anger coming from the left. I tell you, I just don't get it. Why does the left think anyone is advocating violence? Why does the left think the only form of support we can offer is weapons and bombers. Even though all of us who favor showing support for the protesters have repeatedly said we are not talking about military support. I am sure they (the lefties) know this but only by purposely misrepresenting statements can they attempt to make some argument for allowing the protesters twist in the wind. As I said, curious times for the left, indeed.
Yeah, they're falling over backwards in their (rather lame) attempts to read into what we're saying what they want to hear.
I have YET to advocate anything even remotely related to military intervention....but it keeps popping up???
I think we can just feel the anger coming from the left. I tell you, I just don't get it. Why does the left think anyone is advocating violence? Why does the left think the only form of support we can offer is weapons and bombers. Even though all of us who favor showing support for the protesters have repeatedly said we are not talking about military support. I am sure they (the lefties) know this but only by purposely misrepresenting statements can they attempt to make some argument for allowing the protesters twist in the wind. As I said, curious times for the left, indeed.
LOL--right. I think it's more disbelief. So we get on a soap box and denounce the elections in Iran. The regime there tells us to get our nose out of their country and turns us into the interventionist evil empire (even more so than we are to them already)--the great threat from outside--and brands the protesters as being backed by the Americans. Then they all get shot and tortured for working with the enemy. Nice.
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It's always meddling when it isn't the left's idea. I got it. What exactly was the US doing in Egypt for the past year? MEDDLING!
The past YEAR? Better try studying a little history dude, we've been meddling in the middle east far longer than the past year and don't have a whole helluva a lot to show for it.
So, other than whining about Obama, your plan is???????????????????????
Wow you guys are on a roll. You have not made one assertion you can support in this thread, quite an impressive record.
As I have written 4 times now, use our moral authority, to push for free and fair elections. How about saying something along the lines of, we stand with the protesters.
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