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So explain these great individuals ruining people's worship on Sunday:
"Instead, the couple found themselves wading through nearly 100 men and women who had gathered outside the cathedral Sunday morning to protest the Catholic Church's opposition to gay marriage and other stances that they see as unjust to gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people. The protesters waved rainbow flags and shouted slogans like, "Hey, hey, ho, ho, homophobia has got to go!" and, "Holy Name, holy shame!""
A few wild-eyed activists don't represent the majority, and besides, the government will not get involved with forcing churches to marry anybody. Do you know of any laws currently that require churches to marry anybody? No, you don't. That's because none exist.
and besides, the government will not get involved with forcing churches to marry anybody. Do you know of any laws currently that require churches to marry anybody? No, you don't. That's because none exist.
With Obama in charge anything is possible.
The plan is to first force states to allow gay marriages by bringing the issue to the courts and sympathetic Democratic legislatures. Once the gay marriage laws are on the books in a majority of states, the next phase comes into play. Gay marriage bans will be ruled unconstitutional.
Then, any church that will not marry gays will be in violation of the law for "discrimination." When the government threatens to take away the exempt tax status of the churches and also be sued by the government, the churches will have no choice but to allow gay marriage or they will cease to exist.
Last edited by tonythetuna; 02-16-2011 at 09:33 PM..
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Umm... I guess that means you're not outraged by this news.
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Originally Posted by tonythetuna
With Obama in charge anything is possible.
The plan is to first force states to allow gay marriages by bringing the issue to the courts and sympathetic Democratic legislatures. Once the gay marriage laws are on the books in a majority of states the next phase comes into play.
Then, any church that will not marry gays will be in violation of the law for "discrimination." When the government threatens to take away the non-exempt status of the churches and also be sued by the government, the churches will have no choice, but to allow gay marriage.
I'm sorry, but that is so paranoid, it's almost not worth responding to. The U.S. government has never forced any church to marry anyone. To say that they're going to force churches to marry same-sex couples is crazy-talk.
Last edited by AnUnidentifiedMale; 02-16-2011 at 09:45 PM..
You don't get to cut the benefits of one group without cutting those benefits across the board for all employees. It's called discrimination. And though health benefits may be a "perk", they are also part of a complete compensation program provided by the employer to all employees. Cutting already existing benefits from one group of employees, based on their sexual orientation, is discrimination. There's no way in hell this stands up to appeal, even if they take it all the way to the Supremes. The state will just have to find some other way to cut costs.
Oh! Oh! I know!
They could send the illegal immigrants who are blowing up their budget back to......ehh?
Forcing churches to perform gay marriages is in the gay marriage activists agenda.
If it was not in the agenda, gays would be forming their own churches that allow gay marriages.
I did not imply there was. I am only going to count them to prove a point.
Whenever people say "the gay agenda" I picture some old queen writing in a diary with a feathered pen.
Either way, I haven't received my copy this month. Should I call subscriptions?
Whenever people bring up the "gay agenda," it's more of less codeword for "I hate homosexuals." Hey - that's me reading between the lines, Tony! I have a Ph.D. in philosophy - does that make me qualified to do so?
I would organize a boycott of AZ, but that state is in crap up to its eyeballs right now, so what difference would it make?
So explain these great individuals ruining people's worship on Sunday:
"Instead, the couple found themselves wading through nearly 100 men and women who had gathered outside the cathedral Sunday morning to protest the Catholic Church's opposition to gay marriage and other stances that they see as unjust to gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people. The protesters waved rainbow flags and shouted slogans like, "Hey, hey, ho, ho, homophobia has got to go!" and, "Holy Name, holy shame!""
I thought that the gay agenda is to be "godless".
I highly doubt that this protest is to make the point that gays want to be married in the church. I have not been to a mass in nearly 20 years because of its blatant hypocrisy towards gays and lesbians and acceptance of hetero "sins". I only went this past sunday to comfort my mother since my grandmother (her mother) passed away. Did anyone ask the protesters if they wanted to be married there? Protesting against the church has more to do with their antiquated policies against gays, their donations and political influence to the anti-gay agenda. For those of us who grew up in the church and still have close family members in the church, it can be a sore topic.
I don't know of ANY gay or lesbian couple that has said that they wish to marry in a church that is not accepting of them.
The plan is to first force states to allow gay marriages by bringing the issue to the courts and sympathetic democratic legislatures. Once the gay marriage laws are on the books in a majority of states, the next phase comes into play. Gay marriage bans will be ruled unconstitutional.
Then, any church that will not marry gays will be in violation of the law for "discrimination." when the government threatens to take away the exempt tax status of the churches and also be sued by the government, the churches will have no choice but to allow gay marriage or they will cease to exist.
good!!!
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