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Then there's the Dems/unions' way: crushing state governments and taxpayers with lavish pension and health care benefits, pretending that money grows on trees, and handouts for the corporations.
Actually, the benefits for Wisconsin state employees is right in the middle of the private sector for their area. It is average. It is not like some of the outrageous situations we hear about in other places where there is no collective bargining.
If the benefits seem lavish, if the pensions seem outrageous, it is only because American's have turned their back on the Unions and have allowed their jobs to go overseas.
I don't think that firing the teachers is going far enough. Close down the public schools, and let those who have been leeching off of the taxpayers for so long pay for their own childrens' educations.
No reason to punish the students more than they have been by their teachers already. There are plenty out of work teachers who need work. Property taxes pay the teachers and there are plenty of other district employees that are not union who's income this selfish teacher's strike is negatively affecting.
It must have KILLED you when the Democrats were forced to admit that the Bush Tax Cuts included tax cuts for the middle class just before Christmas after all the years of that worn out meme of "Tax Cuts For The Wealthy". "If we don't pass this tax bill before the end of the year, the middle class will lose their tax cuts!"
Just remember....those Bush tax cuts lead to 52 Months of growth, stock market records, full-employment, and a 4 year record in Federal Government Revenues.
Well much of the economic growth last decade was based on rampant spending, cheap credit, and government housing policy. But the expiration of the Bush tax cuts would have certainly caused economic pain if they weren't extended.
......... I bet you really think Obama will come up with some heavy handed threat, don't you?
He can have his SEIU thug supporters travel in buses to intimidate opponent's familes (including their children) and crack heads like they have elsewhere.
Nor is corporate welfare. This is a contrived crisis by the GOP.
Guess what??
The people of Wisconsin elected all these Republicans and the Governor to get their State's budget in order and they are following the will of their constituents.
If some union people and teachers don't like it, instead of trowing temper tantrums and running away from their jobs, do the grassroots stuff to elect someone else.
That's the Democratic way of doing things right....and the way the Tea Party sent so many Democrats their pink slips.
No reason to punish the students more than they have been by their teachers already. There are plenty out of work teachers who need work. Property taxes pay the teachers and there are plenty of other district employees that are not union who's income this selfish teacher's strike is negatively affecting.
Teachers are rare. Good Teachers are even more so. Teachers need to be treasured if this country is to have any future.
He can have his SEIU thug supporters travel in buses to intimidate opponent's familes (including their children) and crack heads like they have elsewhere.
You mean how they've already been using CraigsList to get their thugs to Madison and "bring the fight to the Tea Baggers if they get in your way BLOODY them"???
Teachers are rare. Good Teachers are even more so. Teachers need to be treasured if this country is to have any future.
Teachers are not rare, there are plenty out of work. My district fired 50% last year when they had to close 50% of the district. I believe same is happening in Detroit. I have friends in FL who are good teachers and are under employed as subs. as budget cuts have forced lay-offs.
I agree that good teachers are to be appreciated. Hopefully good teachers have not committed fraud by calling in sick so they could protest. Hopefully good teachers are not part of this fiasco. However, all striking should be canned and if the good ones want their jobs then the districts can decide whether to re-hire them.
Actually, the benefits for Wisconsin state employees is right in the middle of the private sector for their area. It is average. It is not like some of the outrageous situations we hear about in other places where there is no collective bargining.
Average Wisconsinites pay less than half a percent for a pension? Or only 6% (don't remember the exact number) for health care? If so, then I better move to Wisconsin!
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If the benefits seem lavish, if the pensions seem outrageous, it is only because American's have turned their back on the Unions and have allowed their jobs to go overseas.
If anything the unions have turned their backs on Americans and contributed to the crushing of our economy and fiscal budgets.
Teachers are rare. Good Teachers are even more so. Teachers need to be treasured if this country is to have any future.
So maybe the Teachers Union ought to decide to protect some of their jobs, but instead, they are willing to see many get laid-off just so they don't have to pay a bit more into their retirement and HC benefits (way lower than what the typical private sector employee pays)...and forget about demanding Viagra as part of their benefits package too.
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