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Folks who are for this should do a bit of research.
The Telecoms were vehemently against this for a few years.
They had a meeting with Obama and cut some deals..yes the WH gave them what they wanted.
Then the telecoms emerge in FAVOR of this bill.
Does this scenario have a familiar ring ?
The banks were against the financial reform bill, had a meeting with the WH and emerged in favor. Deals were cut and amendments were made. The bill passed.
Big pharma was against the healthcare bill, had some meetings with Congress and emerged in favor of it. Again..deals were cut and amendments were made. That bill passed too.
Go and research this net neutrality deal. What made the telecoms all of a sudden change their minds and side with the WH on this ? What backroom deals were made to change their minds.
Just read this..even with the Financial Reform bill, CC rates have increased.
The article talks about everything except the reason why this happened in spite of the consumer protections that got passed.
The authors don't know why CC rates are going up but they are. Credit card rates move higher, but it's unclear exactly why - USATODAY.com
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I have a problem with price controls, I have no issue with allowing the ISP's to offer tiered service as long as that service remains neutral to the content providers. You the consumer should pay for what you use.
And at one point in history TV was free.
But now we pay. Do you pay for what you use or do you pay for the cable company's package ? There is no a la carte picking and paying for what you use.
And at one point in history TV was free.
But now we pay. Do you pay for what you use or do you pay for the cable company's package ? There is no a la carte picking and paying for what you use.
I'm sorry to say that as a population ... we are doomed. Those who favor government regulation either have a death wish, or they just arrived from another planet and are unaware of the goings on here on planet earth.
Cable TV promised to "save us" from all of that useless advertising on broadcast TV .... just pay a small fee and be free. Then, as everyone got cable, the Satellite Boys came in .... get more channels and better programming than cable .... even if you are out in the sticks!! Then, free broadcast TV effectively went away, and what are we left with? 200 Channels of BS for $100/month ..... 175 channels of 24x7 infomercials, 25 channels of 50/50 rotten programming and commercials for Viagra.
I'm just about to the point of terminating TV altogether. TV has never offered so much of NOTHING as it does today ..... no doubt due to the fact that what used to be 500 companies consolidated into 250, then into 100, then 50, and now, 5.
Those 5 now have the cross-hairs fixed squarely upon the internet for takeover. And the "dummies" are easily led by their noses to support any program so long is it has a catchy name. They cry ... "what's wrong with you all .... you don't want to protect free speech? You don't want the internet to be neutral? You want to allow big companies to rule"?
It's the same song and dance. The same old game. The same three-card-Monty, and the suckers fall for it every single time. So I'm very pessimistic as to our collective futures so long as the public remains this gullible and so easily manipulated.
We have the wholesale looting of the economy by the gangsters on Wall Street and the Banks that run them ..... we have a mass media that, according to the Supreme Court can openly lie to the public .... we have 3 out of every 10 people unemployed and our math skills think that totals 10% .... and the liars in congress couldn't tell the truth if their lives depended on it. And we have a chorus of liberal lunatics chanting "More Government ... More Control ... More Laws ... More Regulations .... More Freedom!!!"
If anyone sees a light at the end of this tunnel ... I've got news for you .. it's the Midnight Marauder barreling toward us ... it's now 11:59, and the train is right on time.
Net neutrality has nothing to do with the tiered plans ISPs offer to consumers.
It is an important part of this subject because with the increased usage the resources are dwindling. The only way for them to maintain profitability is the ability to offer tiered service to the consumer.
That's not an option for many consumers, they have the choice of one or maybe two providers. This is like the water company, it's simply not practical or feasible for competition to move into a new area so the provider has a monopoly by default. If it wasn't for this monopoly I'd probably be arguing on the other side of this issue.
Yes, indeed I do understand ... COMPLETELY. I have an online business myself. I have a terrific host that provides excellent access and speed CHEAP .... surprisingly cheap in fact. And I LIKE IT THAT WAY.
You could host your site on the fastest host in the world and it wouldn't make a difference if the ISP is throttling the connection to the consumer. Your upstream speed becomes irrelevant. Without NN the ISP could go to Amazon and offer them priority service allowing the Amazon site to load faster than yours, where do you think your customers will go if your site is crawling along at a snails pace? You or your host could of course offer to pay the ISP for faster delivery but now your costs have increased substantially.
And at one point in history TV was free.
But now we pay.
It was never free, you "paid" for it through advertising and still do. Cable started not too far from where I live because of poor reception, the guy put a tower up and ran cables to peoples houses so they could get reception.
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Do you pay for what you use or do you pay for the cable company's package ? There is no a la carte picking and paying for what you use.
Because of technological limitations picking what you wanted in the past was not possible. The days of standard packages numbered, it will all be on demand in the future.
They got two things that they wanted. A) the new rules explicity allow them to offer tiered plans to the consumer which is essential for them to maintain profitability under NN rules. B) they got some exemptions for NN rules where they will be allowed to offer prioritized traffic across the networks.
B is of concern for many because it's not NN however they will have legitimate reasons for doing this. As long as it's not abused to monopolize the bandwidth I wouldn't have an issue with it.
It was never free, you "paid" for it through advertising and still do. Cable started not too far from where I live because of poor reception, the guy put a tower up and ran cables to peoples houses so they could get reception.
Because of technological limitations picking what you wanted in the past was not possible. The days of standard packages numbered, it will all be on demand in the future.
What was "free" and I mean I got no bill for watching TV is now NOT FREE.
Indirect costs in advertising ? That's still there today.
But now some conglomerate wants to charge me to just turn the set on.
And then I had to pick one of their packages so I could get my local channels ? And then the monthly bills started climbing with excuses as to why they were rising.
When my bill got to $70/month I told them to shove it and got rid of cable altogether.
You could host your site on the fastest host in the world and it wouldn't make a difference if the ISP is throttling the connection to the consumer. Your upstream speed becomes irrelevant. Without NN the ISP could go to Amazon and offer them priority service allowing the Amazon site to load faster than yours, where do you think your customers will go if your site is crawling along at a snails pace? You or your host could of course offer to pay the ISP for faster delivery but now your costs have increased substantially.
Has the light bulb lit yet??
Yes .... I get it ....... if ..... could ...... might happen ..... the possibility exists .... you never know ...... what if ... ...... read my lips ... it ain't happening. The reality is .... I have had my hosting service for THREE YEARS ... no problems, fast access ... and my rate has increased $1/ month since I signed up three years ago. There is nothing that has been as stable in both performance and cost effectiveness than that .... NOTHING. BTW .... I also use the internet .... I have no problem accessing any site I care to. There is no problem!!!
But the criminal liars in Washington DC, and the rather thick skulled who believe their rhetoric, for God knows what reason, are sure to foul up the internet like everything else.
I wish your light bulb would flicker at least.
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