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Old 02-20-2011, 07:08 AM
 
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How the middle class became the underclass - Feb. 16, 2011

"Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?"
No Millionaire left behind....indeed.

Is any one Cop or Teacher worth two or three qualified people willing to do the same exact job?
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Is any CEO worth 262 times the Average American worker?
CEO-to-worker pay imbalance grows
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Is the problem collective bargaining or is it a 30 year head long assault on the Middle Class.
Hmmmmmmmmm?

I actually do smell a class revolt brewing and I would be surprised at all if it started in Levittown

Be afraid, be very afraid.

The enemy is not who you think it is.


Crooks

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Old 02-20-2011, 07:15 AM
 
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How the middle class became the underclass - Feb. 16, 2011

"Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?"
No Millionaire left behind....indeed.

Is any one Cop or Teacher worth two or three qualified people willing to do the same exact job?
Moderator cut: inappropriate language

Is any CEO worth 262 times the Average American worker?
CEO-to-worker pay imbalance grows
Moderator cut: inappropriate language

Is the problem collective bargaining or is it a 30 year head long assault on the Middle Class.
Hmmmmmmmmm?

I actually do smell a class revolt brewing and I would be surprised at all if it started in Levittown

Be afraid, be very afraid.

The enemy is not who you think it is.


Crooks
I'll make you a deal. You let me dissolve all NY public unions and make public employees pay 40% of their healthcare and 100% of their retirement and I'll let you institute a tax on all highly compensated executives that make more than $250,000 at a rate of 10%.

The hell with Albany, you and I can solve all NYS's problems over a few Sam Adams.

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Old 02-20-2011, 07:22 AM
 
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I'll make you a deal. You let me dissolve all NY public unions and make public employees pay 40% of their healthcare and 100% of their retirement and I'll let you institute a tax on all highly compensated executives that make more than $250,000 at a rate of 10%.

The hell with Albany, you and I can solve all NYS's problems over a few Sam Adams.
25% and well grab a beer.

Still better than it was under Ike.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dirich111/3361071764/ (broken link)
Nixon Now!

I'll make you a deal. Omit the first 20k (Y' know, the Life part of LL&TPOH)
Tax labor at 10% and Gains at 45% then everyone can just write a check for health care.

Party on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnyE2DkRT6o
Crooks
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Old 02-20-2011, 10:16 AM
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/19/opinion/19blow.html
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Old 02-20-2011, 11:22 AM
 
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Koch Brothers Behind Wisconsin Effort To Kill Public Unions - Rick Ungar - The Policy Page - Forbes

‎"You really have to wonder how long it will take for Tea Party devotees to realize just how badly they are being used." - Rick Ungar


Damn that Liberal Forbes.Wisconsin will be very telling for LI.
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Old 02-20-2011, 11:42 AM
 
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FDR warned about the evil of public-sector unions (http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/worth-recalling-fdr-was-no-fan-public-employee-unions# - broken link).

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Even President Franklin Roosevelt, a friend of private-sector unionism, drew a line when it came to government workers: “Meticulous attention,” the president insisted in 1937, “should be paid to the special relations and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the Government….The process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service.” The reason? F.D.R. believed that “[a] strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to obstruct the operations of government until their demands are satisfied. Such action looking toward the paralysis of government by those who have sworn to support it is unthinkable and intolerable.”
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Old 02-20-2011, 11:52 AM
 
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FDR warned about the evil of public-sector unions (http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/worth-recalling-fdr-was-no-fan-public-employee-unions# - broken link).
"The death-knell of the republic had rung as soon as the active power became lodged in the hands of those who sought, not to do justice to all citizens, rich and poor alike, but to stand for one special class and for its interests as opposed to the interests of others."

Theodore Roosevelt
Labor Day
1903

A great Long Islander but certainly no FDR.
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Old 02-20-2011, 12:23 PM
 
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Break cop and teacher unions, you break them all. Good luck with that.

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Old 02-20-2011, 03:00 PM
 
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I actually do smell a class revolt brewing and I would be surprised at all if it started in Levittown

Crooks
Since when is Levittown considered middle class?
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Old 02-20-2011, 03:28 PM
 
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Unions (police, firefighters, teachers, plumbers, electricians, carpenters, factory workers, etc.) have given many American poor and working class folk access to the middle class across our nation. Crooks, if you and your Tea Party brethren have a problem with unions, why not move to China? Independent trade unions are forbidden there. You'd all be happy and have all the egg-rolls you'd want! Be forewarned: I hear those 16-hour workdays are killer!
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