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Nonsense. The people who tout UHC realize in part that the delivery of health care is poorly done through a for-profit insurance company. People need to realize insurance companies are in it for the profit period. Like most insurance it is based on plenty of premium coming in with as little pay-out going out. It really is as simple as that. Health insurance companies can legally collude and fix prices across state lines. They do not have to abide by Anti-Trust legislation. They've raised rates at a fast pace in the distant past and continue to do so, and it will happen under Obamacare because they can.
Every business is for profit and most of them have prices going down due to competition and innovation. You say it yourself, it's government regulation/legislation that allows HC companies to get rid of the competition factor and prices go up. It's government and HC that is colluding and that's a deadly combination.
I stand by my point: most UHC proponents are also in favour of more laws that stifle HC business and eliminate competition.
PS: Innovation is incredibly important and IMPOSSIBLE without PROFIT
Pretty much the best argument that I've read FOR Obamacare. Yes, the Obamacare legislation is not perfect, but repeal is not the answer. "Health insurance should remain a choice" is just a fallacy of an argument, because for millions of Americans, it is not currently an option. Unless you have a job that offers you health insurance, it is very difficult to buy it as an individual.
It is wrong to assume that the millions of uninsured Americans are uninsured because they don't want health insurance.
I have been paying for Healthcare for the past ten years, now I have medicare and Medicare supplement insurance.........look up the facts you will feel better
Pretty much the best argument that I've read FOR Obamacare. Yes, the Obamacare legislation is not perfect, but repeal is not the answer. "Health insurance should remain a choice" is just a fallacy of an argument, because for millions of Americans, it is not currently an option. Unless you have a job that offers you health insurance, it is very difficult to buy it as an individual.
It is wrong to assume that the millions of uninsured Americans are uninsured because they don't want health insurance.
I'm sorry but you are insane, my wife's insurance raised to $700 a month because of Obama care and my baby's health insurance just announced they also were going to increase rates because of Obamacare.
There is no free insurance, just a fine for not buying insurance of up to $5000 per year.
I don't know what you are smoking, but Obamacare needs repealing.
Pretty much the best argument that I've read FOR Obamacare. Yes, the Obamacare legislation is not perfect, but repeal is not the answer. "Health insurance should remain a choice" is just a fallacy of an argument, because for millions of Americans, it is not currently an option. Unless you have a job that offers you health insurance, it is very difficult to buy it as an individual.
It is wrong to assume that the millions of uninsured Americans are uninsured because they don't want health insurance.
If thery can't afford it then that is what mediaid is for. Many actually can afford it but just don't want to pay for it rather buy something else. Obama recogniuse just that fact in his campaign against Clinton. He even said that 15 million who could affors it wil not buy it and thre si no way of really enforcing making them. He laready has give close to a hundred exception to bisuinesses alone.In fact mnay will be force into mediciad because without the medicaid state payments the CBO numbers are not possible. It will be upto staes after 2014 to comeup witht eh huge amounts of revenues increaes to pay their protion. Thus why Nelson (D) of Nebraska sold his vote for a exception of the stae revenues needed.hey alos will force many workig for a company that refuse the company insurance to jin it and ot allowed to shop the pools.I have talked to mnay younger people that say they will just pay the fine when penaltized also.
Yes. Because out of the 5000+ patients I see a year, the vast majority don't reflect these outliers you people seem to have oodles of examples of.
But understand that is why you remember them. Because they are outliers.
I really don't get how you, as a physician, can blame most everyone's illness on lifestyle. Yes, lung cancer is the most common cancer in men and women, but it does not comprise a majority of cancers. Heart disease and colon cancer have HUGE genetic componenets; one of the biggest risk factors for heart disease is being a male, certainly not an easily modifiable condition. Breast cancer is, I believe, the second most common form of cancer in women, and while many studies show some lifestyle causes, nothing is conclusive except genetics and late childbearing, which also isn't modifiable after the fact.
I believe that having UHC is a hallmark of a CIVILIZED society. I'd rather our nation be seen as a civilized place instead of some 3rd world have/have-not hellhole. A lot of people around the world see us as being the latter.
I really don't get how you, as a physician, can blame most everyone's illness on lifestyle. Yes, lung cancer is the most common cancer in men and women, but it does not comprise a majority of cancers. Heart disease and colon cancer have HUGE genetic componenets; one of the biggest risk factors for heart disease is being a male, certainly not an easily modifiable condition. Breast cancer is, I believe, the second most common form of cancer in women, and while many studies show some lifestyle causes, nothing is conclusive except genetics and late childbearing, which also isn't modifiable after the fact.
The biggest thing you are missing is that just because something is genetic does not mean it's unavoidable. Not 100% of the time, but a lot of the time.
Again, you are talking about things that may or may not be unavoidable...what costs us the most health care dollars? Disease based on behavior. Pure and simple.
Every business is for profit and most of them have prices going down due to competition and innovation. You say it yourself, it's government regulation/legislation that allows HC companies to get rid of the competition factor and prices go up. It's government and HC that is colluding and that's a deadly combination.
I stand by my point: most UHC proponents are also in favour of more laws that stifle HC business and eliminate competition.
PS: Innovation is incredibly important and IMPOSSIBLE without PROFIT
I have no issue with innovation and profit. I have a big problem with for profit insurance companies controlling the delivery of health care. That's not innovation and I'll also say BS on so called insurance companies investing in new healthcare procedures. All these bloodsuckers are concerned about is their investors and that's it. And they all can lose it all as far as I'm concerned. Any poster who sells health insurance on this thread, get the swing in selling cars because in a few years that's exactly what you'll be doing.
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