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Old 02-21-2011, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by Savoir Faire View Post
I thought they were against the government and pro joe six packs? Now they seem to believe that if the government tells you do to something, teachers should abide by it, no questions asked?
Excellent question!

Some people have been so mislead by propaganda that they will actually fight against their own self interest!
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Last I heard there was still a stack of young teachers looking for first jobs. Not sure what the problem with suppling energetic, enthusiastic and knowledgeable teachers would be.
They have a job if they want to work for minimum wage without benefits.

Nothing like "moving this country forward!"

But lets continue to protect the wealthy and the corporations! To not do so would be socialism! Hopefully some wealthy corporation will hire a worker at minimum wage.

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WI Governor's Fake Budget Crisis: Gave Tax Breaks to Wal-Mart to Further Real Agenda -- Union Busting | AlterNet
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:47 AM
 
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"All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters."


- FDR
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Federal Emergency Relief Administration. The most popular of all New Deal agencies – and Roosevelt's favorite – was the Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC), which hired 250,000 unemployed young men to work on rural local projects. Congress also gave the Federal Trade Commission broad new regulatory powers and provided mortgage relief to millions of farmers and homeowners. Roosevelt expanded a Hoover agency, the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, making it a major source of financing for railroads and industry. Roosevelt made agricultural relief a high priority and set up the first Agricultural Adjustment Administration (AAA).
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The NIRA included $3.3 billion of spending through the Public Works Administration to stimulate the economy, which was to be handled by Interior Secretary Harold Ickes. Roosevelt worked with Republican Senator George Norris to create the largest government-owned industrial enterprise in American history, the Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA), which built dams and power stations, controlled floods, and modernized agriculture and home conditions in the poverty-stricken Tennessee Valley. The repeal of prohibition also brought in new tax revenues and helped Roosevelt keep a major campaign promise.
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:49 AM
 
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Excellent question!

Some people have been so mislead by propaganda that they will actually fight against their own self interest!
That line always cracks me up.As if liberals are born with some telepathic powers that helps them perceive whats best for everyone else.
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Teachers aren't pro Joe Six Pack,that's a misconception their union would like you believe.
Joe six pack and his family are subject to changes in the economy and must act appropriately to survive.
Public sector unions selfishly protect a class of people from these same economic realities, thus making it even harder for the Joe Six Packs to get by.
As you can see,Joe Six Pack and his family are harmed the greatest in this big lie.
Isn't time the wealthy make sacrifices also?
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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You are a fan of FDR! Me too!
Then you must know FDR was against public sector employees unionizing.
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Isn't time the wealthy make sacrifices also?
What? No way!
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Then you must know FDR was against public sector employees unionizing.
Oh Sanrene, you are also a fan of FDR! Welcome aboard!
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:55 AM
 
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Isn't time the wealthy make sacrifices also?
Some have and some haven't same as any other economic tier.
Why do you think it's for you to decide who and how much?
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Old 02-21-2011, 11:09 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Unions are just an arm of the democrat party and that is one reason they get no sympathy. They have cast their lot with the dems/libs/obama, now they have to lie in the bed they have made.

The whole process is corrupt.

You have unions negotiating with government officials who are then endorsed and supported financially by the same unions.

Why should people be FORCED to join a union in order to work? Can you think of anything more UNdemocratic than that?

And then to have their paychecks reduced by "dues" that go straight into the democrat coffers.

Needs to come to an end.

Government services can't be held hostage by striking workers.

Public sector employees SHOULD NOT be allowed to unionize...period.
You are so very right, When unions are involved, crooked is also involved. We most of us know what Unions are all about, usually on the take they are, and you know it. I know 2 people who work for a govenment job, it is union, so lets no go there, the union, never ever helped these people when they should have or even when they were sick. Democrats and the Unions work hand and hand. As usual sanrene; good post and the truth, some just don't like the truth.
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