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So, assuming this to be true (which I'm not), you're okay with overpaying public sector employees and giving them lavish health and retirement benefits in comparison to their private sector counterparts?
Should public sector employees be more highly compensated both in pay and benefits than what the private market dictates for the same position? Is that fair to the taxpayers? Should a doctor working in the VA or the county hospital get paid double that of a doctor in private practice? What about an accountant working for the federal government? Should he/she get thousands more per year in pay and benefits than one in the private sector?
public workers are by definition overpaid. most people criticise sports stars and actors for this, but no one puts a gun to your head and forces you to buy yankees tickets or clooney movies. try not paying your taxes, which in most cases pay for things you don't want, and see what happens!
When I worked for a Company and felt I deserved a raise, I went to my boss, who knew me, knew my work and was generally able to decide yea or nay. I didn't have to go to some election process to ask people who knew nothing about me or my work. Can a teacher go to the school Principal for such a thing? No. Can a teacher go to the school board to make such a request? No. So, you are suggesting the teacher first get all other teachers to get a referendum together for inclusion on the next election process to get a vote on it? Yep, that pretty fair.
exactly what the governor ran on. he wants to recruit, reward and ultimately retain quality teachers. in english that means that he wants to keep the good ones and get rid of the trash.
who do you think stands in the way of him delivering that?
So, assuming this to be true (which I'm not), you're okay with overpaying public sector employees and giving them lavish health and retirement benefits in comparison to their private sector counterparts?
Should public sector employees be more highly compensated both in pay and benefits than what the private market dictates for the same position? Is that fair to the taxpayers? Should a doctor working in the VA or the county hospital get paid double that of a doctor in private practice? What about an accountant working for the federal government? Should he/she get thousands more per year in pay and benefits than one in the private sector?
Actually post one hundred answers your question. For years people considered public service to be beneath them, they considered public servants to be intellectually less able than themselves and laughed at us because we allowed "others" to negotiate for us, be our mouthpiece, and demand to be treated lawfully and with respect in the workplace.
The private sector worker depended upon the grace and good favor of his employer and as many on this board proudly proclaimed, you chose to represent yourself in everything from retirement to the amount of your raise if any.
We in the public sector realized we would be best represented by individuals trained in retirement professions, labor relations, mediators, etc.
Now that we have benefits that rival and sometimes surpass the private sector, the class jealousy comes out. I'm not going backward economically for you or any other private sector worker.
No, they get minial wages, crappy if any retirement, and no say in any decissions pertaining to their work or students. They can also get the boot at any time with no reason and no legal recourse. Sorry you keep that for yourself.
•In 2007�08, the average annual base salary of regular full-time public school teachers ($49,600) was higher than the average annual base salary of regular full-time private school teachers ($36,300).
•About 63 percent of public and 37 percent of private schools employed staff with academic specialist or coaching assignments. A higher percentage of public elementary schools had staff with academic specialist or coaching assignments (73 percent) compared to private elementary (37 percent), public secondary (42 percent), and combined public schools (46 percent).
Public school teachers are asked to have more teaching credentials a higher level of education and are paid accordingly, stop with the jealesy.
public teachers might be better educated, higher paid etc, but they don't produce the same results as those in private schools!
in my experience with teachers, i find that private teachers are also far happier. most of them know they are paid less, but they have more say about what and how they teach. i doubt there is any jealesy(sic)
public teachers might be better educated, higher paid etc, but they don't produce the same results as those in private schools!
in my experience with teachers, i find that private teachers are also far happier. most of them know they are paid less, but they have more say about what and how they teach. i doubt there is any jealesy(sic)
So your logic is to pay them less or eliminate their jobs???...I'd like to see evidence that the private school produces better results while servicing the same amount of special needs, special education, and at risk children
So your logic is to pay them less or eliminate their jobs???...I'd like to see evidence that the private school produces better results while servicing the same amount of special needs, special education, and at risk children
Private schools pick and choose which students they want. They won't take the special needs and at risk kids which leaves a lot more of them---percentage wise---back in the public schools. Most private schools also require their parents to volunteer at the schools x-number of hours to keep their costs down and public schools can't do that.
exactly what the governor ran on. he wants to recruit, reward and ultimately retain quality teachers. in english that means that he wants to keep the good ones and get rid of the trash.
who do you think stands in the way of him delivering that?
So your logic is to pay them less or eliminate their jobs???...I'd like to see evidence that the private school produces better results while servicing the same amount of special needs, special education, and at risk children
it's a logical assumption. if private schools were churning out kids with a poorer education than free public schools, private schooling wouldn't exist.
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