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Old 02-22-2011, 12:58 PM
 
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I support all union members.

I believe that every working and/or union person should boycott any business owned and operated by a Tea Party person.
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Old 02-22-2011, 01:03 PM
 
Location: NE CT
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What part of "they elected a Republican governor and repub majorities in the state house and senate this past election" is incorrect? Did Walker not win the election? Is his governorship just a figment of everyone's imagination?
Not that I am a Republican, if this were 14 Republicans hiding from the vote and their sworn WI Constitutional duty, they would be villified and hung in effigy, while signs would have everyone of them branded as a Benedict Arnold. The MSM and its hypocritical approach to politics in this matter is stunning and shows exactly why they are dinosaurs and Cable news is winning the battle for the hearts and minds of the average logical thinking for him/herself citizen in this nation.

These Democrat cowards need to return to their sworn duty, hold their nose, and vote like they were elected to do. Otherwise, impeachment proceedings should begin on the grounds of willful neglect of duty and abject irresponsibility to do the job they were elected to do. Finally they should be brought up on charges of interferring with the justice with the intention of illegally undermining legislation and thus preventing government from functioning. Let the trials begin.
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:49 PM
 
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I support all union members.

I believe that every working and/or union person should boycott any business owned and operated by a Tea Party person.
You do realize that there is a significant difference between the impact of public employee unions and privat companies, right?

So you believe that unions at the public sector level should be able to shut down the basic services of the taxpayers at large unless and until all of their demands are met? Is that correct?
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Mr Walker's campaign was financed by the same folk who finance every "old school" Conservative career politician. He's in bed with them. His efforts have nothing to do with changing the political status quo.....
So in essence you just agreed with me... did you realize that?

Are you saying that Dems aren't in bed with their own "good'ole boys"? That was a ridiculous point to make since each side is in bed with it's own base. But then the Dems are angels with open checkbooks and baby bottles for the masses, right?

Let us flip the card and read the other side.

-Do you believe thugs like Trumka are in this for the betterment of the people, or simply protecting his UD's? We all know the answer.
-Do you believe that the way teachers are going about these strikes is showing good character? Are they setting a fine example to their students?

Teachers will have us believe they accept all the measures but not collective bargaining. Translation: We'll give back a little but then reload and demand higher wages again later.

Collective bargaining is a horrible idea, tenure is an even more horrible idea, collective bargaining + tenure = fiscal suicide.

Anyone who voted Walker in knew what he'd do. Clarification: Walker ran "vowing to cut state employee wages and benefits to help reduce state taxes on the wealthy". Anyone who says they didn't expect this is lying. Removing collective bargaining for certain aspects of wages would keep such abuse fom happening again. This is exactly why the teachers don't want to give it up.

As for the core power behind the strikes. Unfortunately, people like Trumka have no problem condoning violence, just as he has in the past. With communists and socialists now involved the protests will turn violent IMHO.

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Old 02-22-2011, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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So in essence you just agreed with me?

Let us flip the card and read the other side.

-Do you believe thugs like Trumka are in this for the betterment of the people as a whole or simply protecting UD's?
-Do you believe that the way teachers are going about these strikes is their right or an exploitation of their freedom?

Teachers will have us believe they accept all of the measures but not collective bargaining. Translation: We'll give back a little but then reload and demand higher wages again later.

Collective bargaining is a horrible idea, tenure is an even more horrible idea, collective bargaining + tenure = fiscal suicide.

Anyone that voted Walker in knew what he'd do. He expressly said he was going after collective bargaining and he's doing just that. Unfortunately people like Trumka have no problem condoning violence, just as he has in the past. With communists and socialists now involved the protests will turn violent IMHO.

They are agreeing to give up exactly what Walker campaigned on.
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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They are agreeing to give up exactly what Walker campaigned on.
And if they keep collective bargaining they'll try to get right back
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Old 02-22-2011, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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And if they keep collective bargaining they'll try to get right back
Says who. They are agreeing to do EXACTLY what Walker said he wanted during the campaign.
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