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Old 02-22-2011, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Brilliant...simply brilliant!!

Not only can't you quantify that, but the probability of that actually points to it being completely untrue.

Chances are that McCain wouldn't have thrown trillions down the toilet and run up spending astronomically.
Sure I can, McCAin was behind the bailouts and has publically stated that President Obama did the right thing, and of course the right threw him under the bus for it. Palin, oh please she couldn't think her way out of a paper bag, sure she would have been entertaining in a morbid sort of way, but she is no great thinker.
Maybe the GOP can run someone better this time around but at this pont the GOP is not making many friends amoung the Independents so that does not look real good, I looking forward to 2016, fresh met as they say, until then I see Obama staying in office.
Casper
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:19 PM
 
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I'll just plunk this here - job growth/loss since the onset of the recession:



Is it great? No. Is it a hell of an improvement? Yes.

And before you start wailing about huge government, those are private sector jobs only.

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Old 02-22-2011, 03:36 PM
 
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My life is worse off, since he took office. I blame him because he is the current pres and has been for a while now. All of his big talk hasn't done anything for me. Not only is my life worse off, but America is worse off.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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I haven't crunched the numbers to determine if I'm actually better off since President Obama took office. But I can say quite confidently that I feel better with him in the White House than I did with George Bush.
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:11 PM
 
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Sure I can, McCAin was behind the bailouts and has publically stated that President Obama did the right thing, and of course the right threw him under the bus for it. Palin, oh please she couldn't think her way out of a paper bag, sure she would have been entertaining in a morbid sort of way, but she is no great thinker.
Maybe the GOP can run someone better this time around but at this pont the GOP is not making many friends amoung the Independents so that does not look real good, I looking forward to 2016, fresh met as they say, until then I see Obama staying in office.
Casper
McCain would have (and actually did) vote in favor of the ORIGINAL bailout while Bush was in office.

He also wouldn't have sent spending through the ceiling.

But don't worry, I won't tell anyone that you actually only brought McCain into the discussion because you had nothing else you could say to defend these horrible figures.
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:15 PM
 
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Well....in all honesty he told the people what they wanted to hear.....thats what politicians do. Politicians are trying to get power and remain in power and thus you tell the people what they want to hear. Its all BS. Politics will make the best of people BS'ers because its the business of BS.

No...he made SPECIFIC promises such as unemployment not going over 8%.
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:18 PM
 
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Is it great? No. Is it a hell of an improvement? Yes.

Wow...you really got to scrape the bottom and clutch at straws for that one!

8% was the maximum he promise unemployment would go if we didn't crucify him for spending trillions of dollars.

He lied and we are now going to nail him to that cross for the trillions in debt he put our country in.
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:21 PM
 
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Neither

I

nor

The United States

nor

The World

nor

The Cause of Human Freedom, Liberty and Self-Determination

are better off today than when Obama first soiled the oval office.

All are worse off, some far worse of, since that sad day in history.

A large part of it is due to Obama the Soiler, with much of the remainder resting at the feet of Pelosi, Reid and their followers (with apologies to "soil", "dirt" and other forms of "filth").
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Numbers really do not lie
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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No...he made SPECIFIC promises such as unemployment not going over 8%.
Ooooooohhh... he promised!!!!!

Mom!!! You promised we could get an ice cream if I ate my peas!!!!

Did he say "I promise unemployment will not rise above 8%?"

PolitiFact | Will: Obama said stimulus would cap unemployment at 8 percent

Like I said. Numbers may not lie. But the people using them sure do.
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