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Old 02-22-2011, 02:26 PM
 
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The whole premise is asnine. I did not vote for Obama, but I will certainly defend him from poorly reasoned attacks on his reputation.

The present is the creation of the past and history did not began in 2008. Hence, the fact that things have gotten worse in the present cannot be controled for to eliminate the consequences and ramification of the last 100 years, to hold Obama specifically responsible for the issues that manifest today. Its just stupid......really.
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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2 years ago my 2007 honda had more value than it does today.

We need to put that on that chart. Obama was President then, as he is now, you see.

Anything other than my car either remaining static or gaining value is an utter failure on Obama's part.

Numbers don't lie!
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:32 PM
 
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Better off than we would be under McCain/Palin, Apsolutely!
Casper

Brilliant...simply brilliant!!

Not only can't you quantify that, but the probability of that actually points to it being completely untrue.

Chances are that McCain wouldn't have thrown trillions down the toilet and run up spending astronomically.
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:35 PM
 
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2 years ago my 2007 honda had more value than it does today.

We need to put that on that chart. Obama was President then, as he is now, you see.

Anything other than my car either remaining static or gaining value is an utter failure on Obama's part.

Another brilliant reply!

Cars depreciate with time and have under EVERY President.

Unemployment, the Poverty Level, and failed banks DOESN'T.
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:36 PM
 
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BHO had a choice to make. Let the economy collapse, or stimulate it. Any other person would've had to make the same choice.

You do know food prices are up due to natural disasters, right? So those food prices blamed on Obama means that he is God and can control the weather.

Four main factors are seen as driving prices higher: weather, higher demand, smaller yields and crops diverted to biofuels. Volatile weather patterns often attributed to climate change are wreaking havoc with some harvests. Heavy rains in Australia damaged wheat to the extent that much of its usually high-quality crop has been downgraded to feed, experts noted.

Ah hell with it, you're right, let's just blame Obama.
Actually, there is much commodities speculation and international hoarding of food by governments attempting to overt food riots, that plays into food prices just as production alon does not determine oil prices. While crop failures play a significant roll in food prices so do other factors.
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:38 PM
 
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since i bought a house and invested in the market 2 years ago....... i'd say yes.

Where most see calmity others see opportunity.

I've made some nice stock and currency trades over the past two years. One thing I learned from the recession of 2001-2 is buying stocks when everybody is running scared in the other direction is one of the moves one can make.
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:39 PM
 
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The whole premise is asnine. I did not vote for Obama, but I will certainly defend him from poorly reasoned attacks on his reputation.

The present is the creation of the past and history did not began in 2008. Hence, the fact that things have gotten worse in the present cannot be controled for to eliminate the consequences and ramification of the last 100 years, to hold Obama specifically responsible for the issues that manifest today. Its just stupid......really.
So please tell us at what point in time we can blame him for things?

Two years isn't enough?

Remember also that he promised just the opposite. He promised unemployment would be down by now for example. Can we at least blame him for the things he said not happening?

Or did he really "remake the world"?........

Obama promises to 'remake the world' - Mike Allen - POLITICO.com
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:42 PM
 
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So please tell us at what point in time we can blame him for things?

Two years isn't enough?

Remember also that he promised just the opposite. He promised unemployment would be down by now for example. Can we at least blame him for the things he said not happening?

Or did he really "remake the world"?........

Obama promises to 'remake the world' - Mike Allen - POLITICO.com
Well....in all honesty he told the people what they wanted to hear.....thats what politicians do. Politicians are trying to get power and remain in power and thus you tell the people what they want to hear. Its all BS. Politics will make the best of people BS'ers because its the business of BS.
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Another brilliant reply!

Cars depreciate with time and have under EVERY President.

Unemployment, the Poverty Level, and failed banks DOESN'T.
My sarcasm, let me show you it.

Numbers don't lie. Even the ones Obama has zero control over.... like the value of my car. They don't lie. They don't tell the whole story either. They're just ... numbers.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Numbers may not lie.

But the people using them certainly do.
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