Obama Admin drops its defense of Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) (Franken, Iraq)
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The President can not just ignore a law it must be repealed and that must be done by the courts. He can give his opinion on the issue but he can not just decide which laws to uphold and which to not. What is a President decided that woman being allowed to vote was a law he/she did not like, should they be able to just stop defending it? No, this is no different.
Actually a law must be repealed by Congress. The President can at his discretion make all kinds of law and have it enforced on his own account...W the minor was the strongest proponent of this...You may want to study your civics again as it is clear that you have no idea how this gov't works.
No matter what you're opinion is on this issue, Obama is overstepping his legal boundaries. He is acting like he is a King, He has no right to order the DOJ to not defend a law that was passed congressionally. He should be following the legal process. You know "checks and balances."
But, just like the Dems in Wisconsin, he apparently doesn't believe in our system of government anymore.
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Originally Posted by Cyber Queen
The President can not just ignore a law it must be repealed and that must be done by the courts. He can give his opinion on the issue but he can not just decide which laws to uphold and which to not. What is a President decided that woman being allowed to vote was a law he/she did not like, should they be able to just stop defending it? No, this is no different.
Actually a law must be repealed by Congress. The President can at his discretion make all kinds of law and have it enforced on his own account...W the minor was the strongest proponent of this...You may want to study your civics again as it is clear that you have no idea how this gov't works.
The Justice Department is tasked with defending laws passed by Congress--even those laws the sitting President may not like or have supported. The House of Representatives can step in and have its lawyers defend the law in court. The President took an oath to uphold the laws we have on the books right now.He can NOT just decide heck I don't like that one so I am gonna ignore it. He has to take the proper steps to have it removed. It is the federal judiciary NOT the executive branch that gets to decide which laws are unconstitutional.
Whatever. The doma is discrimination pure and simple. And while we could potentially debate ad nauseum....I don't give a rats ass if the PTA declares it illegal. Whoever does so and in any capacity is a true American.
The Justice Department is tasked with defending laws passed by Congress--even those laws the sitting President may not like or have supported. The House of Representatives can step in and have its lawyers defend the law in court. The President took an oath to uphold the laws we have on the books right now.He can NOT just decide heck I don't like that one so I am gonna ignore it. He has to take the proper steps to have it removed. It is the federal judiciary NOT the executive branch that gets to decide which laws are unconstitutional.
Really? I thought the oath he took was to protect and defend the Constitution. I imagine it's a pretty hard position to be in when, as head of the executive branch, sworn to protect and defend the Constitution, you're put in a position of enforcing and defending a law like DOMA that is blatantly unconstitutional. That's quite the conundrum
....and on a personal note I just take such pleasure knowing that all these knuckle dragging crazies without a whit of fairness in their own lives....will be in their living rooms as the tv washes over them with the fox haters cursing the gays and the black man as they fall into the crevice of history as nature time and people move onward.
The Justice Department is tasked with defending laws passed by Congress--even those laws the sitting President may not like or have supported. The House of Representatives can step in and have its lawyers defend the law in court. The President took an oath to uphold the laws we have on the books right now.He can NOT just decide heck I don't like that one so I am gonna ignore it. He has to take the proper steps to have it removed. It is the federal judiciary NOT the executive branch that gets to decide which laws are unconstitutional.
The law is still in effect and will be until such time as Congress decides to abolish it. All the President did, and I know this may be difficult to follow, is instruct the DoJ to no longer defend against federal lawsuits that concern this particular law since he believes that those cases are not winnable.
As was noted earlier in this thread, the President is well within his rights to do this and there are have been many other instances of previous presidents doing the same.
This president is an absolute freaking moron. Oil at $100 a barrel. The mid-east is falling apart. Our fragile economy is teetering and our jackass-in-chief is worried about gay marriage.
The man is a guaranteed one-termer and with any luck this country won't vote another Democratic candidate into the WH for the next 50 years.
Ok, let me understand this. You are advocating abandoning the free market and having govt. set the price of oil? You are advocating we support dictatorships and intervene on their behalf? You are saying the price of oil and the establishment of a world empire is more important that the rights of the individuals who are citiziens of this nation. My, my, my what have conservatives come to?
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The Justice Department is tasked with defending laws passed by Congress--even those laws the sitting President may not like or have supported. The House of Representatives can step in and have its lawyers defend the law in court. The President took an oath to uphold the laws we have on the books right now.He can NOT just decide heck I don't like that one so I am gonna ignore it. He has to take the proper steps to have it removed. It is the federal judiciary NOT the executive branch that gets to decide which laws are unconstitutional.
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