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George Washington, for one. But you aren't going to give me the popular revisionist B.S. that they weren't religious, are you? If you are, forget it. You're wasting your breath ....er, typing???
I don't buy the lies, see?
Do you know what a Calvinist is?
You would make Lee Atwater quite proud. But I leave that aspect between him and you. Your example, George Washington, was expected. If that is the best you could think of, too bad for you.
The Citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud themselves for giving to Mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy: a policy worthy of imitation.
- George Washington, 1790
I wonder what he thought of conservative policies then. What do you think? This is the same person who also said:
As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.
Perhaps he knew that social conservatives tend to get in the way of justice and liberality? Now, you could make an argument on his personal belief, his religion. But did he promote the idea of forcing his views on the nation as a whole? I don’t think so. Quite unlike “social conservatives”, no?
You ask what I think of Calvinism. How about what one of the founders thought of him? Let us see:
[Calvin's] religion was demonism. If ever man worshiped a false God, he did. The being described in his five points is ... a demon of malignant spirit. It would be more pardonable to believe in no God at all, than to blaspheme him by the atrocious attributes of Calvin.
- Thomas Jefferson
Sure, they have. And all my Democrat friends have turned into Birchers. Every single one.
And why would I doubt your word. Not every single one of anything does the same thing. Geez. You think we were as stupid, the BS you expect us to swallow.
Let me help you out.
You guys believe whatever, BS Obama spews, no questions asked. Sycophants, I believe, is the term. However, don't think we are stupid enough to do the same thing regarding what you say. It isn't going to happen.
You guys remind me of a nest full of tiny, newly-hatched birds wit their mouths wide-open turned to the sky. However, instead of food being dropped down the wide-open mouths. Obama is dumping all manner of BS down your gullets while you guys swallow deeply singing, um-um good.
I don't think anyone believes that you have any democratic friends.
You would make Lee Atwater quite proud. But I leave that aspect between him and you. Your example, George Washington, was expected. If that is the best you could think of, too bad for you.
The Citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud themselves for giving to Mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy: a policy worthy of imitation.
- George Washington, 1790
I wonder what he thought of conservative policies then. What do you think? This is the same person who also said:
As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.
Perhaps he knew that social conservatives tend to get in the way of justice and liberality? Now, you could make an argument on his personal belief, his religion. But did he promote the idea of forcing his views on the nation as a whole? I don’t think so. Quite unlike “social conservatives”, no?
You ask what I think of Calvinism. How about what one of the founders thought of him? Let us see:
[Calvin's] religion was demonism. If ever man worshiped a false God, he did. The being described in his five points is ... a demon of malignant spirit. It would be more pardonable to believe in no God at all, than to blaspheme him by the atrocious attributes of Calvin.
- Thomas Jefferson
*chuckle*
You really suck at arguing a point.
Sorry, but really? With all the information available on the internet to argue this point and you use this weak illustration?
Go back to school, there are better revisionist who have far more convincing arguments than your trash.
Sounds crazy right? Not really. I have spent my entire life as a Conservative. Founded college republicans at my university and Ronald Reagan was my hero. I was attracted to the Republican party due to facts and honestly but this is no longer what the party is about. The conservative movement is about propaganda, lies, and over simplficition of ideas. The Tea Party is so extreme and dominating public discourse that I am no longer a Republican. I cannot find one honest fact on their website.
Providing corporate tax cuts and NOT raising taxes for people who make over $250k in the current budget crisis is absurd. The distance between the rich and poor is becoming more extreme with a shrinking middle class. There has been not one comment from Conservatives regarding the effect of employee from outsourcing overseas and the fact our manufacturing base has shrunk to nothing in this country.
From that idiot Governor in Wisconsin to the Repbulicans on Capital Hill the conservatives are running this country into the ground. Nothing the tea party or conservatives advocate will increase employment or help American jobs. What the tea party has done is alienate the Repbulican base and energize the liberals to a point that a massize backlash will occur. The current Republican policy is to protect the wealthy and screw everyone else in American.
All of my friends who were Repbulicans are disgusted with the Tea Party and current conservative movement and will vote Democrat in the future. Come 2011 the House and Senate will be Democrat. The President will be Obama.
And you have the tea party to blame.
I love this country. I love capitalism. The American public will not allow the tea party and Republicans to destroy the opportunity and success that is the United States.
You must have misread the definition of a conservative, either that or you have invented a new twisted version of it. But i think it's more like you are a lib, trying to act as though you are a disgruntled conservative.
This entire post is excellent ... just want to elaborate on a couple pf points
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The Fed was created to control the economy, which is a socialist mentality. FEDERAL RESERVE BANK Established in 1913 with the passage of woodrow Wilson's progressive reforms, They feel that they can take the ups and downs out of the normal economic cycle. Eventually the progressives got their opportunity to test their theory. In 1929 we began the great progressive Utopia. Roosevelt did what the progressives wanted; they almost eliminated the middle class. That left only the rich and the poor. FDR was hailed a hero because he provided the jobs in which he stole from the people to begin with. It was only death that kept FDR from becoming dictator.
You are dead on about Roose E Velt. It makes me crazy when I hear so many people praise of FDR, that son of a swine, scum sucking heathen traitor. There is strong, strong evidence that suggests he was actually a Soviet Agent ... at a minimum he turned a blind eye to a massive Soviet intelligence ring operating at the highest levels of the government ... including Roosevelt's closest aid.
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It was only until the end of ww2 in which taxes were dramatically lowered that the country climb out of the depression created by the progressive's Utopia, but the Fed remained. Enter 2007 and we watched, as the fed seemed to weekly lower the prime rates in an effort to maintain a strong economy, all the while the great housing bubble created by the progressives began to leak. In 2009 that bubble burst and the Fed dropped lending rates to near zero.
We sat in 2010 with the Fed having only one option left in its book of tricks to effect the economy, and that is the create dollars. The printing presses are full on. Large corporations are borrowing interest free money from the Feds. That money doesn’t have to be printed. The Feds just tell that company to put X numbers of dollars into its account. Eventually that company will pay that money back to the Fed with no interest, but the kick is that they have to pay it back in actually cash. In that way the Fed is sucking some of that money back out of the economy. Where does that money go? It goes into the privately owned Federal Reserve banks. Someone is getting very rich off the financial ruin of the United States, all the while causing deflation to the US dollar.
This is such an important element of the scheme and is RARELY talked about. This literally is the double whammy ... debasing the currency while also retracting supply. And don't believe for a second that this wasn't the carefully planned, primary purpose ... an electronic transfer of digits becomes a big scoop of cash taken directly out of circulation. And, now that the FED no longer reports M3, there is no way to actually measure just how much the money supply is being expanded (or sent to off shore accounts).
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The economy is still in the total control of the Fed and look where it’s keeping us. This is all a part of the One World Order people to equalize all the economies of the world. In North America they wish to bring down the USA, while bringing up Mexico and South America.
The lame stream media is not going to tell the masses these things, so it’s up to people like us to get the word out. We have to tell anyone that will listen. We have to get as many heads out of the sand that is possible.
This has been an ongoing operation for decades. The de-industrialization of the United States .... and the transfer of industry to China created the environment of living off credit rather than income. This ensured a rapid increase in debt to astronomical levels, while removing industrial capacity that could generate income to pay down all of that debt. A brilliantly designed scheme executed by traitors working for the off shore bankers.
Government hasn't created all of this debt through incompetence ... it was by design. $500 hammers .... the FED loves them. How many do you need? A Million? Here ... here's $500,000,000 .... go buy your hammers.
War? WE LOVE WAR .... need another Trillion, no sweat ... happy to help. Just tell us how much of your money you want us to lend to you, and we'll be glad to do it.
It's the greatest financial heist in the history of the world, and the sleeping sheep haven't a clue ... even when they've been fleeced, and left naked in the cold to shiver. Next up .... Lamb Chops for dinner.
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funny thing is the rothschilds also run the magazine called "the progressive" a magazine around since 1909, with comtributors like bernie sanders (Sanders is a self-described democratic socialist, and has praised European social democracy), and Avram Noam Chomsky (liberal socialist)
please all you have to do is connect the dots
Your only mistake in the post. It's too late ... and those who can't see this for themselves, you'll never be able to point it out to them. With the average IQ in this country of 98 .... that means half of the population is under that level. That means that you might as well be speaking Chinese. The half that is over the 98, 5% are fully behind this scheme, and another 15% of them are on board believing they are part of the inside crowd, and will be benefiting.
You really only have about 10-15% that understand these things and are against it.
We're on a transatlantic flight ... just a bit over halfway to our destination, with not enough fuel to turn around.
Ronald Reagan was my hero. I promise you.. not one conservative in the house or holding any political office seat in this country can come close to this man.
Ron Reagan might have had the republican as his ticket, but he was anything but conservative. He was Libertarian, just as Ron Paul is and always has been.
Ron Reagan might have had the republican as his ticket, but he was anything but conservative. He was Libertarian, just as Ron Paul is and always has been.
I think Ron Paul would disagree on that one, considering the push military-industrial complex got during his tenure, the support to Al Qaeda, the arm deals with countries like Pakistan, unconditional support to Israel, the continuation of America empire to police the world, and most notably, the Iran-Contra, the push for religiosity... I cannot imagine Ron Paul or any Libertarian logic behind those actions.
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The only Fail will be the Tea Party and Republican results in future elections. They are finished. A huge backlash is coming.
So, are you actually aware of the results of the last election?
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