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You have failed epically at summing up my argument, really banning cool things like drugs and alcohol and guns is not what I have in mind at all. Perhaps though, doctors legally pushing opiates under the guise of medicine or pain reduction is something that those in a free society do not want and have every right to oppose. Oh wait I can't, they're protected by their medical license and guess what, the government ironically enough.
the govt through its war on drugs has created huge incentive for these doctors to push pills. and yes, doctors pushing opiates is something you can oppose, just don't oppose on my right to use them if i want to. no one is forcing you to go to these doctors.
i'd personally prefer it if the govt didn't protect the ama monopoly. for a start they are a huge barrier in healthcare. every year around 50000 of our nations brightest apply for med school. every year only 15000 get places. now you wonder why doctors cost so much.
Yes, they do, and the contractors are well aware of who is paying, and they are more interested in bilking every cent out of the government with delays and additional work, while a private funder is more interested in getting the work done asap so they can start collecting their profit.
Not if incentivized right. Bonuses for work completed ahead of schedule. Penalties for work not completed on time. Don't like the terms, don't bid on the project.
How many "private" businesses would quite literally collapse without government largess?
Theres no incentive to build a "get around at your destination" infrasture, until the groundwork and initial network is developed.
nonsense. because they don't have a jhigh speed train from tampa, they therefore don't have the incentive for mass transit in orlando. really? so in order for orlando to justify public transport in orlando, they must build a train from tampa? really? really? i don't think i have read anything that gargantually stupid in years!
You can't talk about economies without linking the socioeconomic dependencies. I've not seen an economy on Earth that is anywhere near as diverse as America but retains a functioning "socialist" system such as Germany, Japan, Sweden, et. al. do. When most people look alike, it's easier to get along and experiment with economic systems such as this. This has been true throughout history. Additionally, the geography and sparseness of our country creates an impediment, as well as the distributed nature of our country, namely our federalist system.
So in other words, the HSR will be just that, a boondongle, because no one's gonna be riding it because there's little ways to get around at your destination. Because that makes a lot of sense.
What part of "contracting companies were willing to guarantee subsidies and ridership projections for 30 years" is escaping you and others?
You cannot ask municipalities to develop bus routes, etc. until there's a guarantee that the project will be coming to town.
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The premise that's wrong in your post, back then during Eisenhower's time, there were a lot less environmental regulations, which meant that government projects could be completed far cheaper and in much less time than they can today. Which is one reason why our infrastructure is crumbling, thanks to, ironically (using Maddow's favorite word), liberalism.
Lack of environmental regulations? Do you ACTUALLY believe this nonsense you post?
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One thing you probably didn't know either, is that whent he government works on the infrastructure, even though it's a private company doing the actual work, the government is the underwriter so the government is subject to the bureaucratic red tape and ultimately, the private company is too since they are not the ones funding the project. There's certain rules that the government has to follow, such as splitting the work between small and large companies and not letting only one build. And also splitting time with minority owned companies as well, for affirmative action purposes as well.
I "probably didn't know?" HA! I have extensive knowledge and have dealt with the contracting side and review of plenty of agreements between municipalities, government agencies and private companies implementing construction and other projects.
I have lived it. You have probably read about it on "We're so anti-communist blog du jour."
What is your proposal? Privatization of everything? Utter utopian pipe dream bullsh*t, just like the idea of a socialist utopia. You operate on the same side of a coin that does not and cannot exist.
It seems lately that alot of places don't want high-speed rail. In Georgia, former Governor Perdue couldn't make up his mind and now Georgia won't get it at all. This angers me, especially considering I voted AGAINST him in favor of another candidate. I went out and vote in my first governor election in 2006, planned to vote Perdue OUT OF OFFICE. Guess what, he got the majority vote of the three candidates and I was stuck with him for 4 more years. In 2010, I voted again, this time for Roy Barnes. Guess what, I'm stuck with Nathan Deal. I am trying to do my part in the political process and it never works. Now Florida won't get HSR. I was thinking if the USA gets HSR, this would be a step up. It hasn't happened and it's angering to me that this isn't happening. I wonder what the next solution is.
I would be in full favor of HSR and I see it as a necessity. So far, it seems like it isn't catching alot of interest. I haven't like the way things have been running since 2001, and I think things need to change.
Not if incentivized right. Bonuses for work completed ahead of schedule. Penalties for work not completed on time. Don't like the terms, don't bid on the project.
How many "private" businesses would quite literally collapse without government largess?
Well, I gave you the real life example, the I-595 project. in Ft Lauderdale.
Here's the deal:
With private funding = 5 years to complete
With Fed funding = 20 years to complete
Previously I said the fed promied to complete it in 15, years, but actually the 15 years is the number of years the private funding accelerates the project, so the fed estimate was really 20 years. Unacceptable. Also, I said the cost was 10 billion, but is is actually 1.8 billion.
That is what I think High speed Rail is the solution to.
I think High Speed Rail Passenger service along with efficient local service and rail freight service operation on separate tracks and powered by nuclear electric power is the answer to our nation's dependency on imported petroleum and our political refusal to cross the tyrants that serve as pushers.
It is the solution to creating a free and independent United States of America.
nonsense. because they don't have a jhigh speed train from tampa, they therefore don't have the incentive for mass transit in orlando. really? so in order for orlando to justify public transport in orlando, they must build a train from tampa? really? really?
For the slow kids in the back:
1) There is a public transportation system in BOTH Orlando and Tampa. Orlando's is bettr than Tampas, but Tampa does have one.
2) A high speed rail system will likely have one to two stops within a city. On a longer segment, such as Orlando through Miami, some towns will have stops, and others will not.
3) Where a station will be developed, that city will then have reason to either upgrade, develop, or change existing public transport (such as bus routes) to accomodate the new rail line, and will have a couple years lead time for same.
I travelled from Heathrow airport to Liverpool a couple years back. A very fast, clean and efficient system. There were stations at the cities inbetween same. Once you ended up at your destination, you took a cab, rented a car, or you could wait for public transport.
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i don't think i have ever read anything that gargantually stupid in years!
You must not make a habit of reading your own posts, I'm afraid.
Well, for what I want and need, HSR would work for me. With HSR, no car, no problem.
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