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Old 02-27-2011, 10:14 PM
 
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Excellent! Time to call out the Republicans on their endless stream of nonsense. Favoring the rich, corporate executives, those enjoying the unearned privilege, and the powerful, at the expense of EVERYONE ELSE must cease.

Republicans represent a stench that has simply become unbearable to an increasing number of people in this country and I'm glad this rally is on. It is probably the first step towards annihilating Republicans in 2012 and getting them the hell out of the way. They stink, pure and simple.
oh please...its time to stop the fascism of the progressive liberals

the progressives (aka todays liberals which took over the democratic party) have been in bed with the elite since the late 1880's..

these are the same people that created the fed, the same people that passed the income tax amendment in 1913, the same people that suppored the european socialists and the nasi's, and the fascists, the eugentics program (ie forced sterilization)

progressives have helped in some areas (child labor laws, etc) but their sole intent is to 'socialize' the united states, to either "nationalize" the entire country and its corporations (main stream socialist way), or to so over regulate the corporations (the fascist way)

progressives (aka liberals) were the ones who supported hitler, progressives are owned by the european banks

Up until ww2, fascist and progressives were the same thing....But they dropped the term fascist due to public outcry and stuck with the term progressive ever since. Aside from being a complete nut of a dictator, Hitler had extremely liberal political policies and highly regulatory government agencies. He even had unviersal health care.

H.G. Wells was of the greatest influences on the progressive mind in the twentieth century (and, it turns out, the inspiration for Huxley's Brave New World). Wells didn't coin the phrase as an indictment, but as a badge of honor. Progressives must become "liberal fascists" and "enlightened Nazis," he told the Young Liberals at Oxford in a speech in July 1932.

This is why the fake liberals of today call themselves "liberal". They hijacked the word after progressive was tainted with Hitler, Eugenics, population control, economic fascism, etc.

In a laudatory review of Roosevelt's 1933 book Looking Forward, Mussolini wrote, "Reminiscent of Fascism is the principle that the state no longer leaves the economy to its own devices.… Without question, the mood accompanying this sea change resembles that of Fascism."

Where socialism sought totalitarian control of a society’s economic processes through direct state operation of the means of production, fascism sought that control indirectly, through domination of nominally private owners. Where socialism nationalized property explicitly, fascism did so implicitly, by requiring owners to use their property in the “national interest”—that is, as the autocratic authority conceived it. (Nevertheless, a few industries were operated by the state.) Where socialism abolished all market relations outright, fascism left the appearance of market relations while planning all economic activities. Where socialism abolished money and prices, fascism controlled the monetary system and set all prices and wages politically. In doing all this, fascism denatured the marketplace. Entrepreneurship was abolished. State ministries, rather than consumers, determined what was produced and under what conditions.

look at the political donations....goldman sacks donated over 5 million to the liberals just in the last election cycle

who is the fed???.... it is 12 banks mostly european...one of them is.....Sachs of New York ....another is Chase Manhattan Bank of New York (CHASE is the consumer and commercial banking subsidiary of JPMorgan Chase).....some of the others.....Lazard Brothers of Paris (one of the world's largest investment banks).......

another interesting fact one of the 12 was Lehman Brothers of New York ...now defunked..most of its assests were sold to barkleys of england.

The Fed was created to control the economy, which is a socialist mentality. FEDERAL RESERVE BANK Established in 1913 with the passage of woodrow Wilson's progressive reforms, They feel that they can take the ups and downs out of the normal economic cycle. Eventually the progressives got their opportunity to test their theory. In 1929 we began the great progressive Utopia. Roosevelt did what the progressives wanted; they almost eliminated the middle class. That left only the rich and the poor. FDR was hailed a hero because he provided the jobs in which he stole from the people to begin with. It was only death that kept FDR from becoming dictator.

It was only until the end of ww2 in which taxes were dramatically lowered that the country climb out of the depression created by the progressive's Utopia, but the Fed remained. Enter 2007 and we watched, as the fed seemed to weekly lower the prime rates in an effort to maintain a strong economy, all the while the great housing bubble created by the progressives began to leak. In 2009 that bubble burst and the Fed dropped lending rates to near zero.

We sat in 2010 with the Fed having only one option left in its book of tricks to effect the economy, and that is the create dollars. The printing presses are full on. Large corporations are borrowing interest free money from the Feds. That money doesn’t have to be printed. The Feds just tell that company to put X numbers of dollars into its account. Eventually that company will pay that money back to the Fed with no interest, but the kick is that they have to pay it back in actually cash. In that way the Fed is sucking some of that money back out of the economy. Where does that money go? It goes into the privately owned Federal Reserve banks. Someone is getting very rich off the financial ruin of the United States, all the while causing deflation to the US dollar.

The economy is still in the total control of the Fed and look where it’s keeping us. This is all a part of the One World Order people to equalize all the economies of the world. In North America they wish to bring down the USA, while bringing up Mexico and South America.

The lame stream media is not going to tell the masses these things, so it’s up to people like us to get the word out. We have to tell anyone that will listen. We have to get as many heads out of the sand that is possible.



funny thing is the rothschilds also run the magazine called "the progressive" a magazine around since 1909, with comtributors like bernie sanders (Sanders is a self-described democratic socialist, and has praised European social democracy), and Avram Noam Chomsky (liberal socialist)

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."

- Norman Thomas, former U.S. Socialist Presidential Candidate

Zbigniew Brzezinski advisor to carter, bush1,clinton, cheney and obama.....""This is a form of Socialism known as fascism, and it will be the type of world government the power elite plans ultimately to bring about and control. In this government, the power elite will control politicians who will become government leaders who will promulgate laws, rules and regulations favorable to certain transnational corporations"""........"In order to bring about a North American Union (NAU), the public first has to be conditioned to think of themselves as North Americans. ... "Zbigniew Brzezinski has been a CSIS counselor, and at Mikhail Gorbachev's first State of the World Forum in 1995, Brzezinski revealed:


"We cannot leap into world government through one quick step.... The precondition for eventual and genuine globalization is progressive regionalization because by that we move toward larger, more stable, more cooperative units."


"The aim of socialism is not only to abolish the present division of mankind into smaller states and all-national isolation, not only to bring the nations closer to each other, but also to merge them."

"...in Brzezinski's BETWEEN TWO AGES (1970), he praised Marxism, and he claimed that "the nation-state is gradually yielding its sovereignty." One aspect of American sovereignty that is being yielded is ownership of American companies by Americans. In the first 9 months of 2007, 69 companies in New England alone have been sold to foreign buyers. Nationally, the French company Alcatel bought Lucent Technologies in the U.S. last year, and in September 2007 announced it will be cutting thousands of jobs. ..."



As an ardent admirer of Marx, Benito Mussolini (1883-1945) called his version of Marxist socialism "Fascism" Instead of nationalization--government ownership--of private business, Mussolini advocated government control of business via complete bureaucratic regulation.

marxism, socialism, communism, fascism, progressivism, liberalism...all part of the same family

"If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees." bill clinton



"A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage -- the political paradise of communism." Saul alinski




please all you have to do is connect the dots


look at this, perfect example of todays american progressive liberal:....
""Fascism is a system in which the government leaves nominal ownership of the means of production in the hands of private individuals but exercises control by means of regulatory legislation and reaps most of the profit by means of heavy taxation. In effect, fascism is simply a more subtle form of government ownership than is socialism."" Mussolini
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:14 PM
 
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You know what the problem is? The good times are over, yet the leftists and the public unions want to continue believing that the good times never end, and the gravy train will run forever. They get drunk on government money and programs, and when it comes time to rein in the spending, they go through withdrawal which consists of verbal and physical bashing and intimidation
Yep, they bite the hand that feeds. Fine, we'll stop feeding them. Walker's plan is just a start.
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Excellent! Time to call out the Republicans on their endless stream of nonsense. Favoring the rich, corporate executives, those enjoying the unearned privilege, and the powerful, at the expense of EVERYONE ELSE must cease.

Republicans represent a stench that has simply become unbearable to an increasing number of people in this country and I'm glad this rally is on. It is probably the first step towards annihilating Republicans in 2012 and getting them the hell out of the way. They stink, pure and simple.
uhm

unions ARE corporations
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:16 PM
 
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uhm

unions ARE corporations
I've had to explain that to other libs, too.

Why don't they already know that?
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Old 02-28-2011, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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""Fascism is a system in which the government leaves nominal ownership of the means of production in the hands of private individuals but exercises control by means of regulatory legislation and reaps most of the profit by means of heavy taxation. In effect, fascism is simply a more subtle form of government ownership than is socialism."" Mussolini
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"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."

- Norman Thomas, former U.S. Socialist Presidential Candidate
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"A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage -- the political paradise of communism." Saul alinski
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all you have to do is connect the dots
You really need to change your screen name to "wealthyman'shero", because all the garbage you spew on a regular basis would benefit them FAR more than the "working class"
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Old 02-28-2011, 08:27 PM
 
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oh please...its time to stop the fascism of the progressive liberals

<snip>
Old dead white men, for the most part.
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Old 02-28-2011, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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oh please...its time to stop the fascism of the progressive liberals

the progressives (aka todays liberals which took over the democratic party) have been in bed with the elite since the late 1880's..

these are the same people that created the fed, the same people that passed the income tax amendment in 1913, the same people that suppored the european socialists and the nasi's, and the fascists, the eugentics program (ie forced sterilization)

progressives have helped in some areas (child labor laws, etc) but their sole intent is to 'socialize' the united states, to either "nationalize" the entire country and its corporations (main stream socialist way), or to so over regulate the corporations (the fascist way)

progressives (aka liberals) were the ones who supported hitler, progressives are owned by the european banks

Up until ww2, fascist and progressives were the same thing....But they dropped the term fascist due to public outcry and stuck with the term progressive ever since. Aside from being a complete nut of a dictator, Hitler had extremely liberal political policies and highly regulatory government agencies. He even had unviersal health care.

H.G. Wells was of the greatest influences on the progressive mind in the twentieth century (and, it turns out, the inspiration for Huxley's Brave New World). Wells didn't coin the phrase as an indictment, but as a badge of honor. Progressives must become "liberal fascists" and "enlightened Nazis," he told the Young Liberals at Oxford in a speech in July 1932.

This is why the fake liberals of today call themselves "liberal". They hijacked the word after progressive was tainted with Hitler, Eugenics, population control, economic fascism, etc.

In a laudatory review of Roosevelt's 1933 book Looking Forward, Mussolini wrote, "Reminiscent of Fascism is the principle that the state no longer leaves the economy to its own devices.… Without question, the mood accompanying this sea change resembles that of Fascism."

Where socialism sought totalitarian control of a society’s economic processes through direct state operation of the means of production, fascism sought that control indirectly, through domination of nominally private owners. Where socialism nationalized property explicitly, fascism did so implicitly, by requiring owners to use their property in the “national interest”—that is, as the autocratic authority conceived it. (Nevertheless, a few industries were operated by the state.) Where socialism abolished all market relations outright, fascism left the appearance of market relations while planning all economic activities. Where socialism abolished money and prices, fascism controlled the monetary system and set all prices and wages politically. In doing all this, fascism denatured the marketplace. Entrepreneurship was abolished. State ministries, rather than consumers, determined what was produced and under what conditions.

look at the political donations....goldman sacks donated over 5 million to the liberals just in the last election cycle

who is the fed???.... it is 12 banks mostly european...one of them is.....Sachs of New York ....another is Chase Manhattan Bank of New York (CHASE is the consumer and commercial banking subsidiary of JPMorgan Chase).....some of the others.....Lazard Brothers of Paris (one of the world's largest investment banks).......

another interesting fact one of the 12 was Lehman Brothers of New York ...now defunked..most of its assests were sold to barkleys of england.

The Fed was created to control the economy, which is a socialist mentality. FEDERAL RESERVE BANK Established in 1913 with the passage of woodrow Wilson's progressive reforms, They feel that they can take the ups and downs out of the normal economic cycle. Eventually the progressives got their opportunity to test their theory. In 1929 we began the great progressive Utopia. Roosevelt did what the progressives wanted; they almost eliminated the middle class. That left only the rich and the poor. FDR was hailed a hero because he provided the jobs in which he stole from the people to begin with. It was only death that kept FDR from becoming dictator.

It was only until the end of ww2 in which taxes were dramatically lowered that the country climb out of the depression created by the progressive's Utopia, but the Fed remained. Enter 2007 and we watched, as the fed seemed to weekly lower the prime rates in an effort to maintain a strong economy, all the while the great housing bubble created by the progressives began to leak. In 2009 that bubble burst and the Fed dropped lending rates to near zero.

We sat in 2010 with the Fed having only one option left in its book of tricks to effect the economy, and that is the create dollars. The printing presses are full on. Large corporations are borrowing interest free money from the Feds. That money doesn’t have to be printed. The Feds just tell that company to put X numbers of dollars into its account. Eventually that company will pay that money back to the Fed with no interest, but the kick is that they have to pay it back in actually cash. In that way the Fed is sucking some of that money back out of the economy. Where does that money go? It goes into the privately owned Federal Reserve banks. Someone is getting very rich off the financial ruin of the United States, all the while causing deflation to the US dollar.

The economy is still in the total control of the Fed and look where it’s keeping us. This is all a part of the One World Order people to equalize all the economies of the world. In North America they wish to bring down the USA, while bringing up Mexico and South America.

The lame stream media is not going to tell the masses these things, so it’s up to people like us to get the word out. We have to tell anyone that will listen. We have to get as many heads out of the sand that is possible.



funny thing is the rothschilds also run the magazine called "the progressive" a magazine around since 1909, with comtributors like bernie sanders (Sanders is a self-described democratic socialist, and has praised European social democracy), and Avram Noam Chomsky (liberal socialist)

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."

- Norman Thomas, former U.S. Socialist Presidential Candidate

Zbigniew Brzezinski advisor to carter, bush1,clinton, cheney and obama.....""This is a form of Socialism known as fascism, and it will be the type of world government the power elite plans ultimately to bring about and control. In this government, the power elite will control politicians who will become government leaders who will promulgate laws, rules and regulations favorable to certain transnational corporations"""........"In order to bring about a North American Union (NAU), the public first has to be conditioned to think of themselves as North Americans. ... "Zbigniew Brzezinski has been a CSIS counselor, and at Mikhail Gorbachev's first State of the World Forum in 1995, Brzezinski revealed:


"We cannot leap into world government through one quick step.... The precondition for eventual and genuine globalization is progressive regionalization because by that we move toward larger, more stable, more cooperative units."


"The aim of socialism is not only to abolish the present division of mankind into smaller states and all-national isolation, not only to bring the nations closer to each other, but also to merge them."

"...in Brzezinski's BETWEEN TWO AGES (1970), he praised Marxism, and he claimed that "the nation-state is gradually yielding its sovereignty." One aspect of American sovereignty that is being yielded is ownership of American companies by Americans. In the first 9 months of 2007, 69 companies in New England alone have been sold to foreign buyers. Nationally, the French company Alcatel bought Lucent Technologies in the U.S. last year, and in September 2007 announced it will be cutting thousands of jobs. ..."



As an ardent admirer of Marx, Benito Mussolini (1883-1945) called his version of Marxist socialism "Fascism" Instead of nationalization--government ownership--of private business, Mussolini advocated government control of business via complete bureaucratic regulation.

marxism, socialism, communism, fascism, progressivism, liberalism...all part of the same family

"If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees." bill clinton



"A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage -- the political paradise of communism." Saul alinski




please all you have to do is connect the dots


look at this, perfect example of todays american progressive liberal:....
""Fascism is a system in which the government leaves nominal ownership of the means of production in the hands of private individuals but exercises control by means of regulatory legislation and reaps most of the profit by means of heavy taxation. In effect, fascism is simply a more subtle form of government ownership than is socialism."" Mussolini
Good explanation of what progressivism is along with the connection to fascism.
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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Massive??

About 50,000 nationwide outside of Wisconsin (70,000)

San Francisco Rally for the American Dream Draws Thousands, Demanding Economic Rights and Opportunity

A MoveOn organizer tells AlterNet that at least 50,000 people came out in the streets across the country for today's Rally to Save the American Dream.

Not exactly the million man march...
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:33 AM
 
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Massive??

About 50,000 nationwide outside of Wisconsin (70,000)

San Francisco Rally for the American Dream Draws Thousands, Demanding Economic Rights and Opportunity

A MoveOn organizer tells AlterNet that at least 50,000 people came out in the streets across the country for today's Rally to Save the American Dream.

Not exactly the million man march...
The Million Man March never had close to a million marchers in the first place.
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:35 AM
 
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Strike a nerve, did I?

Bravo for the unions and their right to donate money to anyone they wish to support.
And the same goes for Kochs right?
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