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It's been said that a Liberal is just a Conservative who hasn't been mugged yet. Perhaps this is true. If it is, then I would also submit that a Conservative is just a Liberal who hasn't been sick yet....
Yes, my family and I have health insurance. Yes, I agree that it is each of our responsibilities to see to it that we have the coverage that we need. Yes, I agree that it is the responsibility of every able bodied adult to pay for said coverage for themselves.
However, the system we have does not work. Maybe if one is young and in good health, it will work just fine, but consider the following:
Your wife is pregnant with twins. She goes into labor eight weeks early and there are complications for both her and the babies. Your wife spends a week in the hospital. Your children spend five weeks in NICU.
But you have insurance right? Every thing's covered, so you're good, right? Are you sure?
Your plan pays 90%. How bad can the remaining 10% really be? What if your insurance company arbitrarily refuses to pay for a necessary medical procedure? They do that frequently, as I found out.. So how bad can it be?
Try $65,000 and change out of pocket......
Yes, we negotiated with the hospital and one of the doctors and got the bill knocked down a bit. We had 20K in savings that went towards it and we paid the remaining 15K off over two years.
We were fortunate. We were in a position to do so. Most people are not.
So why is it such a bad idea to have universal health care? Why is it such a bad idea to have everyone pay into the system so that it is there if you ever need it? You know, kind of like we do for things like say, the military, or the police department, or the fire department, or even public education?
Naw, that would be (shudder) socialism.... We can't have that!
I used to see health care the same way some of the more conservative posters here do. I sincerely hope none of you ever find yourself in the position of needing extensive medical care. I can't say that you'll change your mind, but I can guarantee you will re-evaluate your position on the subject....
Excellent post!!!! It seems that some people can't see it unless they go through it.
i don't trust big business to look out for me. I don't trust anyone to look after me, but me. I am married, with three children. My family is my responsibility, not yours. I had the children and its up to me to provide for their medical care, schooling, etc. It is not the governments responsibility, nor anyone else's to pay for them.
I don't want your taxes to increase, so my kid can get "healthcare." the formula is very simple: You provide for yourself and your family. Don't expect others to provide for you.
If you cannot afford it, that is your problem. Not mine.
WE SHOULD PRIVATIZE MEDICARE EVERYTHING..no more socialism!
Crazy idea, do you have any idea what % of health care costs incurred at last 5-10 years of life? All you 20-40 year olds would get hammered if Medicare was no longer picking up the check. Believe me, 20 years in big Pharma, Medicare does it cheaper than your private insurance co.
Crazy idea, do you have any idea what % of health care costs incurred at last 5-10 years of life? All you 20-40 year olds would get hammered if Medicare was no longer picking up the check. Believe me, 20 years in big Pharma, Medicare does it cheaper than your private insurance co.
not my problem/.//people should be responsible for their own health..they should save up to buy it privately During The Years they were working instead of forcing everyone into this ponzi scheme that we have no choice about
Well geez, I guess Medicare, Medicaid (taking about 70% of the federal budget), and The Emergency Medical Treatment Act existed only in an alternative universe. And the health care "system" has not changed that I have seen.
Can we have an educated debate? One line summaries "Republicans bad, democrats good" don't cut it unless your educational level ended at the 2nd grade.
Edit - actually Medicare did change under Bush in 2002 or 3, which he added about $500 billion to the program for drug subsidieries for the poor, elderly.
That was a heck of a give away to big Pharma. Phil Gramm created another Medicare "prescription plan" but prohibited Medicare officials from negotiating prices with drug manufacturers.
How come Walmart can negotiate with manufacturers but the govt. can't negotiate drug prices?
not my problem/.//people should be responsible for their own health..they should save up to buy it privately During The Years they were working instead of forcing everyone into this ponzi scheme that we have no choice about
Uhh ok..... what if you get sick, can't work and lose your health insurance and nobody will insure you?
That was a heck of a give away to big Pharma. Phil Gramm created another Medicare "prescription plan" but prohibited Medicare officials from negotiating prices with drug manufacturers.
How come Walmart can negotiate with manufacturers but the govt. can't negotiate drug prices?
Somewhat correct. All in all this was an incredibly stupid piece of legislation, unfunded, the ugly ramifications of which still don't show in our budget numbers.
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