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View Poll Results: What is your view of unions?
I approve of all of them, public and private. 106 43.80%
I approve of public sector unions only. 4 1.65%
I approve of private sector unions only. 49 20.25%
I do not approve of any unions. 71 29.34%
Other, please explain. 12 4.96%
Voters: 242. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-27-2011, 06:35 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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there are no rights.
WRONG!

The NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS ACT (1935) provides for the right to unionize.

Employees shall have the right to self-organization, to form, join, or assist labor organizations, to bargain collectively through representatives of their own choosing, and to engage in other concerted activities for the purpose of collective bargaining or other mutual aid or protection, and shall also have the right to refrain from any or all of such activities except to the extent that such right may be affected by an agreement requiring membership in a labor organization as a condition of employment as authorized in section 158 (a)(3) of this title.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/29...7----000-.html

Ken
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Old 02-27-2011, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Tallahassee
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Thanks for the unsolicited advice, but I did my duty by informing my employer of my notice to appear for jury duty. If they wanted me to submit a hardship excuse, they certainly could have requested that I do so. Hindsight is 20/20.
So the business is not going to go under because you're away for week and a half. Good. Apparently, the owners of your business didn't think it would suffer that much either.
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:00 PM
 
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Default Corporate Profits Soaring Thanks to Record Unemployment

Submitted by Mark Provost on Fri, 02/25/2011 - 14:53

http://www.economicpopulist.org/cont...d-unemployment

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In a January 2009 ABC interview with George Stephanopoulos, then President-elect Barack Obama said fixing the economy required shared sacrifice, "Everybody’s going to have to give. Everybody’s going to have to have some skin in the game." (1)
For the past two years, American workers submitted to the President’s appeal—taking steep pay cuts despite hectic productivity growth. By contrast, corporate executives have extracted record profits by sabotaging the recovery on every front—eliminating employees, repressing wages, withholding investment, and shirking federal taxes.

The global recession increased unemployment in every country, but the American experience is unparalleled. According to a July OECD report, the U.S. accounted for half of all job losses among the 31 richest countries from 2007 to mid-2010. (2) The rise of U.S. unemployment greatly exceeded the fall in economic output. Aside from Canada, U.S. GDP actually declined less than any other rich country, from mid-2008 to mid 2010. (3)

Washington’s embrace of labor market flexibility ensured companies encountered little resistance when they launched their brutal recovery plans. Leading into the recession, the US had the weakest worker protections against individual and collective dismissals in the world, according to a 2008 OECD study. (4)

Blackrock’s Robert Doll explains, “When the markets faltered in 2008 and revenue growth stalled, U.S. companies moved decisively to cut costs—unlike their European and Japanese counterparts.” (5) The U.S. now has the highest unemployment rate among the ten major developed countries.

(6).
The private sector has not only been the chief source of massive dislocation in the labor market, but it is also a beneficiary. Over the past two years, productivity has soared while unit labor costs have plummeted. By imposing layoffs and wage concessions, U.S. companies are supplying their own demand for a tractable labor market. Private sector union membership is the lowest on record. (7) Deutsche Bank Chief Economist Joseph LaVorgna notes that profits-per-employee are the highest on record, adding, “I think what investors are missing - and even the Federal Reserve - is the phenomenal health of the corporate sector.” (8)
But lets cut more unions out and lower wages more as well as throw more into unemployment so these jackals can continue their raping.

They need to take a bath in a vat of acid

Left - Right hoax
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:01 PM
 
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Anyone who is anti-Union has never had a Union job. From my experience, working for a union company is a much more harmonious environment than non-union, where management has all the power.

And "Right to Work State" is one of those things that sounds good but is really a load of garbage.
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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WRONG!

The NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS ACT (1935) provides for the right to unionize.

Employees shall have the right to self-organization, to form, join, or assist labor organizations, to bargain collectively through representatives of their own choosing, and to engage in other concerted activities for the purpose of collective bargaining or other mutual aid or protection, and shall also have the right to refrain from any or all of such activities except to the extent that such right may be affected by an agreement requiring membership in a labor organization as a condition of employment as authorized in section 158 (a)(3) of this title.

United States Code: Title 29,157. Right of employees as to organization, collective bargaining, etc. | LII / Legal Information Institute

Ken
I didn't say you didn't have the right to unionize, what I said is there are NO rights. You only have those rights that you can personally defend and assure yourself of. You have no right to life, nor liberty, nor anything else.
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:06 PM
 
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Date of Birth
February 22, 1988 (23)
Yeah, so what? Are you ageist? I know for a fact I'm better-informed than 80% of the people on this forum actually...
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:06 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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I didn't say you didn't have the right to unionize, what I said is there are NO rights. You only have those rights that you can personally defend and assure yourself of. You have no right to life, nor liberty, nor anything else.
More silly anarchist garbage.
Tell it to someone who cares.



Ken
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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I approve of Unions but I don't approve of monopolies and giant conglomerates running the country.
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:10 PM
 
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I didn't say you didn't have the right to unionize, what I said is there are NO rights. You only have those rights that you can personally defend and assure yourself of. You have no right to life, nor liberty, nor anything else.
The only right anyone has is the right to fight for it.

It's like an old question I remember hearing pop up.

Does Israel have the right to exist?

It does not come down to rights, but rather fighting to exist via a big stick.

Every American has the right via fighting in whatever means they wish to get what they want. The military and us gov is the perfect teacher of this principal as they carry on around the world as they please.
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:12 PM
 
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Yeah, so what? Are you ageist? I know for a fact I'm better-informed than 80% of the people on this forum actually...
Just pointing out the obvious fallacy to your post.

And you just had to exhibit it once again? Brilliant!
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