Do the GOP and Tea Party share 11 points with Fascism? (Obama, politicians)
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1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism
This is a given, no explanation needed.
So, which nation do you believe is the best on earth? If I think USA should always be no. 1 then I'm somehow a nazi?
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2. Disdain for the importance of human rights
Look at the way they reacted to the toppling of a dictator in Egypt recently.
Let me get this right. Are you blaming Bush for what happened in Egypt?
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3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause
Unions, Immigrants, Blacks, Mexicans, liberals, "mainstream media", gays, Muslims, etc... list goes on and on
I will avoid using the term fascist by describing the Republicans as the Party of the Aristocrats and the Tea Party as fools that have been seduced by the Aristocrats. The goal of both parties is to create a perfect agreement between the financiers and the politicians in order to protect the very upper class from any loss of power or privilege and to be able to pass this power and privilege on to their children. These parties are well on their way to reinstating an exclusive feudal system of the rich, powerful and privileged.
The rest of us will be relegated to the disenfranchised lower management, professional, worker and slave class. Look at the pre- civil war south as an example of what this country is becoming. Cavaliers’ ruling over slaves and tenant farmers as part of their white Christian birthright is the long term goal of the party of privilege.
1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism
This is a given, no explanation needed.
2. Disdain for the importance of human rights
Look at the way they reacted to the toppling of a dictator in Egypt recently.
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause
Unions, Immigrants, Blacks, Mexicans, liberals, "mainstream media", gays, Muslims, etc... list goes on and on
4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism
Another given
5. Rampant sexism
Listen to Limbaugh
6. A controlled mass media.
Does not meet criteria. They dominate talk radio, but not the rest of media.
7. Obsession with national security
No brainer
8. Religion and ruling elite tied together
Palin, Christian Right, prayer in schools, 10 commandments in public
9. Power of corporations protected
No brainer
10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated
Ding ding ding
11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts
Just read the posts on this forum
12. Obsession with crime and punishment
Another obvious one
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption -
Both parties are culpable, so I'll let this one slide
14. Fraudulent elections -
2000 election, but since it's been over a decade I'll let this one slide. Plus Democrats are also known to engage in this.
Y E S !
In Fascist regimes the educators and unions were the first targets.
Did ya notice I posted "first" targets? That means there will be more......when will the union/teacher haters have their turn? Who will stand up for them?
That's why universities are fascist, or in my opinion Stalinistic, these days: they don't want to be the "first targets". They want to help with the targeting. Get rid of all dissenters or iconoclasts: that's why everybody who is "well educated" is as corrupt as hell. Just look at our corporations and politicians.
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Y E S !
In Fascist regimes the educators and unions were the first targets.
Did ya notice I posted "first" targets? That means there will be more......when will the union/teacher haters have their turn? Who will stand up for them?
communism, fascism, socoialism..all stem from marxism..and the progressive movement of the 1880's...which is exactly what todays american 'liberals' are
No they don't. Fascism is direct opposite of Marxism. Heck, it is quite opposite of communism and socialism in general. For this, the least we could do is take the words directly from the leader of the Italian Fascist party in 1930s?
"Fascism is definitely and absolutely opposed to the doctrines of liberalism, both in the political and the economic sphere."
"The Fascist negation of socialism, democracy, liberalism, should not, however, be interpreted as implying a desire to drive the world backwards to positions occupied prior to 1789, a year commonly referred to as that which opened the demo-liberal century."
Here's one point:
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause Unions, Immigrants, Blacks, Mexicans, liberals, "mainstream media", gays, Muslims, etc... list goes on and on
How would they Righties deal with this one?
quite easily.
just witness the leftists' continuous stream of shrieking and gibbering about 'teabaggers', glenn beck, rush limbaugh, 'repugs,' sarah palin, fox news, ad nauseum.
just witness the leftists' continuous stream of shrieking and gibbering about 'teabaggers', glenn beck, rush limbaugh, 'repugs,' sarah palin, fox news, ad nauseum.
Easy to see that you can't tell the difference between political opposition and hatred.
Easy to see that you can't tell the difference between political opposition and hatred.
with leftists, there is no difference in this instance. the shrieks of hatred are impossible to miss.
would you like to see one of P&OC's resident leftists clamoring for the torture-murder of glenn beck, including his being blinded by a red-hot poker? just say the word.
Who educated you? Fascism and Communism are euphemisms for "dominate and destroy" or "collectivism". Both have the same mission and the same results: their stratagems are only slightly different. BTW fascism is a general term for totalitarianism for a lot of people. Most people do not associate the word exclusively with Italy's fascist party.
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No they don't. Fascism is direct opposite of Marxism. Heck, it is quite opposite of communism and socialism in general. For this, the least we could do is take the words directly from the leader of the Italian Fascist party in 1930s?
"Fascism is definitely and absolutely opposed to the doctrines of liberalism, both in the political and the economic sphere."
"The Fascist negation of socialism, democracy, liberalism, should not, however, be interpreted as implying a desire to drive the world backwards to positions occupied prior to 1789, a year commonly referred to as that which opened the demo-liberal century."
Guess why 1789...
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