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Old 02-27-2011, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Columbus
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The Political Economy of Government Employee Unions by Thomas DiLorenzo

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When the employees of a grocery store, for example, go on strike and shut down the store, consumers can simply shop elsewhere, and the grocery-store management is perfectly free to hire replacement workers. In contrast, when a city teachers' or garbage-truck drivers' union goes on strike, there is no school and no garbage collection as long as the strike goes on. In addition, teachers' tenure (typically after two or three years in government schools) and civil-service regulations make it extremely costly if not virtually impossible to hire replacement workers.
I find it interesting that democrats are supporting the only monopoly in the U.S.
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Old 02-27-2011, 04:08 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The Political Economy of Government Employee Unions by Thomas DiLorenzo



I find it interesting that democrats are supporting the only monopoly in the U.S.
They're fascists. Who's surprised by that.
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Old 02-27-2011, 04:12 PM
 
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[quote=Jill61;18048643]Downtown Los Angeles City Hall Rally in support of the Wisconsin Public Sector Union Employees.
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great ad for wisconsin. companies must me beating down the governors door to invest there.
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Old 02-27-2011, 06:37 PM
 
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after looking over those pictures again, I can honestly say "if they want the students to not eat junk food, the teachers in WI are OBVIOUSLY not setting a good example"
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:09 PM
 
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They're fascists. Who's surprised by that.
I am. Since when can one be both a fascist and a liberal? Time for you to break out the Thesaurus again.
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:15 PM
 
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I am. Since when can one be both a fascist and a liberal? Time for you to break out the Thesaurus again.

Have you never heard of synonyms?
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:44 PM
 
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Well that's interesting. I do not remember anything like that when we lived in Albany. It's certainly not how it's done here. We elect the school board, and they vote on the budget.
It's the same where I live: the public votes on the annual proposed school budget.

I couldn't imagine how much higher property taxes would be if the public had no say in how the BOE wants to spend tax payers monies on the schools and pay it's Supers.
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:52 PM
 
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WATCH THIS VIDEO!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpCe7...feature=relmfu
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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its not supporting workers...that is union coruption... private unions are ok,,,but PUBLIC unions are wrong

if you support the PUBLIC union thievery,,you are NOT supporting the working taxpayer...you are supporting union thieves

actually there is nothing wrong with PRIVATE sector unions...but the ISSUE AT HAND is the raping of the taxpayer by the PUBLIC sector unions that should be abolished

PUBLIC unions should not have barganing power...private unions sure..but not PUBLIC unions

the unions make it MADITORY to be a member of the union whether the worker want to be a member or not
the union makes it maditory to pay dues, even if you dont want to be a union member..you want the job, you will be union or you can go find something else

that is union crime

there should not be anytype of barganing for PUBLIC unions...private unions sure..but not publc unions

becaue PUBLIC unions are not supposed to have barganing...period

National Labor Relations Act ("Wagner Act"),Congress enacted the landmark Act in 1935 - the Magna Carta of the American labor movement. It excluded federal, state and local employees. It created the National Labor Relations Board to enforce the rights of labor.

even FDR said so

"""Meticulous attention should be paid to the special relationships and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the government. All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations ... The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for ... officials ... to bind the employer ... The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives ...

"Particularly, I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of government employees. Upon employees in the federal service rests the obligation to serve the whole people ... This obligation is paramount ... A strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent ... to prevent or obstruct ... Government ... Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government ... is unthinkable and intolerable."""...FDR 1937

and you want to know WHY it is a problem to have 'collective barganing' in the PUBLIC SECTOR............The problem is there is no REAL "collective bargaining." ......Public sector unions are a client of a Democratic bureaucracy that wants their vote. The taxpayer - the "employer" - isn't a player in the bargaining process......




this is why the liberals and the unions are protesting

“Without the mandatory dues from public employee unions, the democrat party is toast. Once this ball is rolling and taxpayers realize how the scam of public unions work, this wave will be unstoppable. Wi. dems better keep running.”
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:55 PM
 
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I am. Since when can one be both a fascist and a liberal? Time for you to break out the Thesaurus again.
Let's go to higher ed on this. Read and learn...
LUSO: Socialism and Fascism
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