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Old 02-28-2011, 07:30 AM
 
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Just curious if there any city-data members that are conservative/independent/libertarian and are a member of a public union.

If so, are you torn by this? Are you able to sleep at night? Do you feel that you need to resign from your job? or are you quietly being a hypocrite?

I mean, come on, not all union members can be democrats

I'll even expand my question to those that work in a NON public union because i know a majority of you have disdain for any flavor of union.
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Old 02-28-2011, 07:33 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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I'm a Libertarian. I am not a member of a union and I would not be against it. Having said that, I'm not against being a prosperous owner of a company either. Both have gotten too big for their britches and need to be taken down a notch.
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Old 02-28-2011, 07:38 AM
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Libertarian and former union member here.
I have also participated in several votes to bring in union representation, voting against every time.
Unions protect the incompetent, dangerous and inefficient worker much to the detriment of the consumer/taxpayer.

Socialized work places are far less profitible.
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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I used to be a member of a pub union, but the drinking got to me.
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I'm an NSF funds siphoner, and I sleep very well at night as a libertarian. I have no other method of getting research money, since the government has practically cornered the market in my research interest. If you're against unions, you do what you can to get rid of them through voting...then you can sleep very well at night too.

Similar to paying taxes. You pay the minimum amount to not get in trouble and live with it. I'm not going to sit in a jail just to send a message.
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:13 AM
 
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Libertarian and former union member here.
I have also participated in several votes to bring in union representation, voting against every time.
Unions protect the incompetent, dangerous and inefficient worker much to the detriment of the consumer/taxpayer.

Socialized work places are far less profitible.

Agreed.

I was a member of a Union for over a decade. The best thing that ever happened to my career was the day I became an exempt employee and escaped the Union. In a Union, you can't be awarded for individual merit or achievement. Your boss can’t come up to you and say “hey, you did a great job the other day, take a comp day off or here is a spot bonus” without everyone else filing a grievance. You can’t be promoted because you are the most competent at your job, but rather just because you were the one able to avoid getting caught slacking off the longest.

And in California, you are forced to join the Union as condition of employment - though you can "quit" but you still must pay dues! The Union leadership know this, which is why they are as responsive to an individual member’s concerns as any other worthless politician.
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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] so you and forrest were supporting "socialist/communist"? How can you live with yourself?
Similar to how many patriots do it. You infiltrate by becoming a member and slowly liberate it from the inside.
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:22 AM
 
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Similar to how many patriots do it. You infiltrate by becoming a member and slowly liberate it from the inside.
It's also interesting how the Union mindset corrupts some people. I always used to think that the Guido, knee-cap busting, mafioso, Union thug was just a stereotype created by Hollywood for the movies...

It's not.
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:32 AM
 
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Independent conservative and former member of a union. Would never join those mafia type organizations again.
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Old 02-28-2011, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Kaneohe, HI
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Just curious if there any city-data members that are conservative/independent/libertarian and are a member of a public union.

If so, are you torn by this? Are you able to sleep at night? Do you feel that you need to resign from your job? or are you quietly being a hypocrite?

I mean, come on, not all union members can be democrats

I'll even expand my question to those that work in a NON public union because i know a majority of you have disdain for any flavor of union.
I'm a Libertarian, a Left Libertarian to be exact. While I have never been part of a union, I think it's silly to assume all or most Libertarians are anti-union. One must remember that not all Libertarians are Conservative or on the Right. While I think the leaders of some unions are thugs and criminals, I still believe workers must be able to protect themselves from exploitation. I have no problem with workers organizing to protect their jobs, pay and work conditions. So, in a nutshell, I wouldn't lose sleep if I was part of a union.
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