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Old 03-01-2011, 11:28 AM
 
Location: The Heartland
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And again, it doesn't matter what the voters think when constitutionality is involved. That lands it in the hands of the court, period.
Oh...I forgot that we are not a government of the people.

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I bet there was a time when 70% or more of the people in Alabama didn't want integrated schools, either.
See post #39 and there is no comparison between integration and woman who do not want to be raped repeatedly by their ex husband because he thinks it is his right under sharia.
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:29 AM
 
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They would let him go.
They can have him now, if he is willing to go, IMHO.
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:31 AM
 
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From the link:

"In considering the woman’s plea for a restraining order after the couple divorced, Charles ruled in June 2009 that a preponderance of the evidence showed the defendant had harassed and assaulted her, but “The court believes that [defendant] was operating under his belief that it is, as the husband, his desire to have sex when and whether he wanted to, was something that was consistent with his practices and it was something that was not prohibited.”

Charles’ ruling was overturned last month by New Jersey’s Appellate Court, which ruled that the husband’s religious beliefs were irrelevant and that the judge, in taking them into consideration, “was mistaken.”

In other words, the system is working as intended.

Again THIS was a question of RELEVANCE. It is the purview of the judge to make relevancy determinations. THIS IS NOT ADOPTING SHARIA LAW.

This was about the judge assessing the defendant's intent, getting into the defendant's subjective state of mind, and nothing more.

He may have (arguably) gotten it wrong, but the point is that this case doesn't do what the rather shrill and misleading title of this op-ed piece says it does.

The real mistake here was the judge thinking that ignorance of the law was an excuse. That's what he really did wrong.

Again, it's theater.
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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Oh...I forgot that we are not a government of the people.
How many times do I have to go through this? It is not a matter of opinion. It is basic American civics 101.

Constitutional stuff is NOT subject to the whim of the majority. Period.

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See post #39 and there is no comparison between integration and woman who do not want to be raped repeatedly by their ex husband because he thinks it is his right under sharia.
Explained above.
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:34 AM
 
Location: The Heartland
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That is a misrepresentation of what the judge actually did. Even if correct, it doesn't mean Sharia is taking over. It means one judge in NJ was drunk on duty. And really, couldn't you find a more unbiased source than THAT?
No it does not mean sharia is taking over but it definitely shows their ultimate goal. Who will be the next drunk judge? Give them an inch....
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:36 AM
 
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No it does not mean sharia is taking over but it definitely shows their ultimate goal. Who will be the next drunk judge? Give them an inch....
Whose goal?

The non-muslim judge?

WTF...

Who cares what their goal is. They cannot attain it.

So stop worrying and being so damn gullible.
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Talking Muslims to take over USA...

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It does seem that unless he shows he is one of them completely that they will take him down with a trial. Here are all the things he has been doing wrong according to Choudary, the Muslim who will be leading the demonstration at the White House this week. That is, they will demonstrate if someone gets them a permit to do it.

Obama to be tried by Muslims ‘when they take over U.S.?’ – Patriot Update

Will these be the S Central Kansas Muslim hordes sweeping in from the west to conquer Washington? My bet is that they're p*ssed because Obama drinks beer and eats pork.

I've gotta hand it to you, roy. You post a lot of nutty stuff on this forum. But you've outdone yourself this time.
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Yeah...just happened to be Muslim. He also said it was unconstitutional but has yet to explain how. Maybe you would like to explain for him?

I know that 70% (nearly 700,000) of the people of Oklahoma who voted would disagree.
It does not matter if they agree or not, or don't you know that. After all we are a Republic not a Democracy as the right just loves to point out.
Casper
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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From the link:

"In considering the woman’s plea for a restraining order after the couple divorced, Charles ruled in June 2009 that a preponderance of the evidence showed the defendant had harassed and assaulted her, but “The court believes that [defendant] was operating under his belief that it is, as the husband, his desire to have sex when and whether he wanted to, was something that was consistent with his practices and it was something that was not prohibited.”

Charles’ ruling was overturned last month by New Jersey’s Appellate Court, which ruled that the husband’s religious beliefs were irrelevant and that the judge, in taking them into consideration, “was mistaken.”

In other words, the system is working as intended.

Again THIS was a question of RELEVANCE. It is the purview of the judge to make relevancy determinations. THIS IS NOT ADOPTING SHARIA LAW.

This was about the judge assessing the defendant's intent, getting into the defendant's subjective state of mind, and nothing more.

He may have (arguably) gotten it wrong, but the point is that this case doesn't do what the rather shrill and misleading title of this op-ed piece says it does.

The real mistake here was the judge thinking that ignorance of the law was an excuse. That's what he really did wrong.

Again, it's theater.
I bet that judge was a secret muslim and was secretly talking with secret muslim Obama about how to handle this secretly muslim case.

Secret muslim.

Pass the kielbasa, Mmmm..secretly delicious.
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Old 03-04-2011, 12:08 AM
 
Location: missouri
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When they take over I hope they have those boxes set up around the hood to turn in saboteurs like the commie Ruskies had. I am turning in a lot of people to have then vanish..
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