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Old 03-08-2011, 11:22 AM
 
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No. Our Constitution is the Supreme Law of the land. There can be no other laws but the laws of the United States.

It's interesting that those who scream about the so-called "separation of church and state" seem perfectly willing to say we should allow Islam to practice Sharia Law, which calls for stoning of women caught in adultery, stoning of women for dating a non-Muslim ("honor killing") stoning of homosexuals, and a variety of other "crimes" against Islam, etc, etc.

This O.P. obviously has no clue what Sharia Law is. How can it be compared to Nazi's and Nurmeberg? He has no clue what he is talking about.

Sharia Law is in direct conflict with our constitution and our inalienable rights.
No one says we should allow Islam to stone women or homosexuals. There are parts of Sharia law that are not compatible with US law. And there are parts of Sharia law that are compatible. Sharia law is not in direct conflict with our Constitution. Sharia law is sometimes in conflict with American legal code. And when it is, US law prevails. Always. What conflicts with our rights are overly righteous people who don't understand that freedom, such as freedom of religion, means that others don't have to share your beliefs. I know, awful, ain't it?
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:26 AM
 
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When it comes to liberal judges you cannot rely on common sense. They have none. Laws need to be enacted so that when (not if) these liberal wacko judges start evoking Sharia instead of US law they can be impeached immediately.

New Jersey Judge Rules Islamic Sharia Law Trumps U.S. Law « Creeping Sharia

Sharia Law Gains Foothold in US: Federal Judge Upholds Government Funding of Islam | Islam in America Right Side News (http://www.rightsidenews.com/2011012012609/us/islam-in-america/sharia-law-gains-foothold-in-us-federal-judge-upholds-government-funding-of-islam.html - broken link)

Shariah law is already here: Judge allows spousal rape on Islamic grounds

Sharia Law: Coming Soon to a Courtroom Near You - Hans A. von Spakovsky - National Review Online

Concessions to Islam: An American Judge Applies Sharia Law
Laws need to be enacted to force judges to observe laws already enacted?

Do you realize how asinine that sounds?
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:29 AM
 
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Originally Posted by nononsenseguy View Post
No. Our Constitution is the Supreme Law of the land. There can be no other laws but the laws of the United States.

It's interesting that those who scream about the so-called "separation of church and state" seem perfectly willing to say we should allow Islam to practice Sharia Law, which calls for stoning of women caught in adultery, stoning of women for dating a non-Muslim ("honor killing") stoning of homosexuals, and a variety of other "crimes" against Islam, etc, etc.

This O.P. obviously has no clue what Sharia Law is. How can it be compared to Nazi's and Nurmeberg? He has no clue what he is talking about.

Sharia Law is in direct conflict with our constitution and our inalienable rights.
Tell me: iz u trollin' or do you seriously believe that we are advocating legal stoning of women and homosexuals? Rather pointing out that these things are already illegal and making further laws to target specific religions is both discriminatory and a waste of ink and paper(in other words, a one-two punch of stupidity)?
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Old 03-09-2011, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Laws need to be enacted to force judges to observe laws already enacted?

Do you realize how asinine that sounds?
It is indeed asinine that such measures have to be taken, but as I already demonstrated in numerous examples, we already have asinine liberal judges who ignore US law in favor of Sharia and that needs to stop - NOW!
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Old 03-09-2011, 08:17 AM
 
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It is indeed asinine that such measures have to be taken, but as I already demonstrated in numerous examples, we already have asinine liberal judges who ignore US law in favor of Sharia and that needs to stop - NOW!
Numerous example? Actually, NOT.
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Old 03-09-2011, 09:23 AM
 
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It is indeed asinine that such measures have to be taken, but as I already demonstrated in numerous examples, we already have asinine liberal judges who ignore US law in favor of Sharia and that needs to stop - NOW!
I already responded to that. Your "numerous examples" was actually several sources reporting on one case. That was correctly overturned on appeal. And harshly criticized the lower court judge (which is pretty rare, even in state courts).

And still nobody dares to answer the question I've posted numerous times in this thread.
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Old 03-09-2011, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Nazi's taking rights away from Jews in the 1930's

Nuremberg Laws - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Today's GOP attempting to take rights away from Muslim's in 2011.

Tennessee proposal suggests Muslims could face jail for following Sharia law | Mail Online
Sounds good to me.

I don't think we should allow Muslims to be in the country.
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Old 03-09-2011, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Since I am not a Sharia Law scholar, unlike a boat load of scholarly folks at C-D and elsewhere who make it a point to discuss the law with such passion and zeal, I looked up a few of the laws and chuckled. Here are a few of such restrictions that we can look forward to, criminalized/made illegal. Tennessee…

1- Will be making praying five times a day illegal. My family gets pretty close to it, considering that they pray before every meal, and at least once after reading the Bible. Are churches going to be put on a watch to make sure that they either exceed or stay below the five-prayer law in a day?

2- Will be banning personal visit and prayer to the sick, because it is a part of Sharia law.

3- Will be making it unlawful to claim/give any property ownership to God because, Sharia, while recognizing private and community property, also assumes that it all ultimately belongs to God.

4- Will be making it illegal to give child custody to the mother under any circumstances unless the child is older than eight, because it is a requirement in Sharia.

5- Will be making it illegal to invoke any notion of sin, because Sharia opposes violations against God any law opposing Sharia must support such violations.

6- Will be promoting sale of liquor and opening up of casinos. Banning or restricting them would be supporting Sharia.

And I will look forward to all of this.

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Extraneous law is extraneous.

The only laws that can be American laws are American laws, and the only laws that can be American laws are laws that do not conflict with the Constitution of the United States. Shariah cannot be the law unless it is an American law, and it cannot be an American law if it violates the Constitution. We don't need laws against honor killings as we already have laws against killings. We don't need laws against stoning as we already have the 8th amendment.

Basically, Shariah alarmists are civics challenged morons. /thread
Quit making so much sense. You'll make some of the smaller brains explode.



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Why do you feel like you need to misrepresent the positions of others in this debate?
This whole 'debate' is centered around the misrepresentation of the positions of others.
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Old 03-09-2011, 09:43 AM
 
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Sounds good to me.

I don't think we should allow Muslims to be in the country.
So you don't believe in freedom of religion. Nice.........
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Old 03-09-2011, 09:43 AM
 
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Sounds good to me.

I don't think we should allow Muslims to be in the country.
Your anti-American lack of respect for the First Amendment is noted.

I'm going to bet you call yourself a "constitutionalist," but you have no idea what the Constitution actually says and you stand against one of its bedrock principles.
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